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Capital article on Princeton Review rankings

di2001navydi2001navy Registered User Posts: 26 New Member
edited July 2008 in Naval Academy - Annapolis
JULY 29, 2008
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Academy tops in sobriety, bad food

St. John's College gets good marks for student participation
By Earl Kelly, Staff Writer

If a straight-laced atmosphere is what you're seeking in a college, the Naval Academy ranks as the seventh most "stone cold sober" school nationwide, and No. 1 in the "least likely to have marijuana laying around" category, according to a new ranking of colleges.
The survey of 368 colleges was released yesterday by "The Princeton Review" and lists the Top 20 schools in 62 categories.
The University of Maryland-College Park has the best athletic facilities in the country, according to the survey, and the students go to events in droves. They have time for sports, according to the survey, because they don't study.
St. John's College ranked 12th in the country in "Everyone Plays Intramural Sports," and 13th in the "Intercollegiate Sports Unpopular or Nonexistent."
"The Princeton Review" surveyed 120,000 college students for this, its 17th annual college guide.
Unlike the famous annual ranking released each year by U.S. News and World Report, this survey lists the top colleges within categories, but does not have an overall rating of institutions.
"We are very adamant about not doing that because we believe there is no such thing as the best college," Seamus Mullarkey, editor of the Princeton survey, said in a phone interview yesterday. "We take a completely different approach, this is about the individual student … , the best fit for any particular student."
Students offered comments when responding to the survey, and a Naval Academy midshipman wrote, "We are here to defend liberty, not to enjoy it."
A chemistry major wrote, "The administration is what it is - deal with it," and still another described mids as "resilient, hard-working."
Not everyone was so sanguine, though, and one mid said, "Think of Stalin and Hitler having a child, and then that child running your school."
Another mid concluded, "The food will always suck."
That student wasn't alone in his assessment, and the Naval Academy scored 19th in the country in the worst food category.
But, as one mid noted, "Nobody here was drafted."
A Naval Academy spokesman declined to discuss the rankings except to say "The Naval Academy has nothing to add to 'The Princeton Review rankings.'"
Across King George Street, at St. John's College, a Johnnie wrote that the school was "exhilarating and exhausting," and another praised the faculty for being so well-educated they can "bounce from Newton to Leibniz to Baudelaire to Bach."
"There is little or no lecturing," one St. John's student wrote, noting that classes are run as seminars and not as traditional lectures. A fellow student said, "There is an almost snugly feeling of community here."
"The one thing Johnnies have in common is their love of learning and their love for thought," a junior stated in his comments.
The Naval Academy ranked 9th in faculty accessibility, and one student wrote that the professors are "some of the most caring and well-educated people in the world."
Naval Academy mids also ranked as the 12th most conservative students and 15th most active in intramural sports.
Out at the Air Force Academy, the professors ranked as the most accessible in the country.
Clemson University students were rated as the happiest students in the United States, while midshipmen at the U.S. Merchant Marine Academy in Kings Point, N.Y., ranked as the least happy.
The Merchant Marine Academy also ranked 2nd in giving profs low marks, 3rd in "Dorms Like Dungeons" and 3rd in worst food.
The Military Academy at West Point ranked in the top 20 schools in 11 categories, including 3rd in "More to Do on Campus" and 5th in professor accessibility, to 17th in students studying the most and 19th in least happy students.
West Point ranked No. 20 in "Dorms Like Dungeons."
The Coast Guard Academy in New London, Conn., also finished in the top 20 schools nationwide in 11 categories, ranging from 2nd in "Don't Inhale" and "Dorms Like Dungeons," to 16th in intramural sports.
The Coast Guard Academy also had the 2nd worst college library in the country, according to the report, and Coast Guard cadets ranked as 7th least happy students in the country.
Profs at Johns Hopkins University came in No. 6. in "Professors Get Low Marks," while students at Loyola College in Baltimore ranked their dorms as the most "like palaces" in the United States.
Not only did College Park rank first in athletic facilities, which include a deep-sea diving pool and a climbing wall, but they ranked second in popularity of intercollegiate sports, and second in students who studied the least.
College Park's student newspaper "The Diamondback" ranked No. 6 nationwide.
The University of Florida was ranked the No. 1 party school, beating out last year's title holder, West Virginia University.
Brigham Young University students ranked as the most sober and most religious, while Occidental College in Los Angeles ranked as the most liberal.
"The Best 368 Colleges" went on sale today for $21.95. For more information visit Page Not Found | The Princeton Review.
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Replies to: Capital article on Princeton Review rankings

  • Whistle PigWhistle Pig - Posts: 4,093 Senior Member
    While this tripe can and does seem to hit the mark on occasion, and the public bathes in it all, they do get one thing right in this particular publication. Aside from these various topics/issues, they don't, won't rank schools. U.S. News and its mimickry ought to be shot. For sure it sells magazines and annuals but means diddley squat in either the beginning or the end.
  • rjrzoom57rjrzoom57 Registered User Posts: 377 Member
    Another mid concluded, "The food will always suck."

    my son spent block 1 on aboard ship and made the mistake of commenting to the crew that the galley food was great; steaks, burgers; lobster fridays etc. The crew's response was along the lines of the above "the food here will always suck". When he responded that it was way better than what they were serving at the Academy, (he misses the beef) they refused to believe it... as Einstein said "it's all relative"

    We have used Princeton Review for basic information about college statistics; enrollment, class profiles etc. Some of the random crap; quotations etc. they add in does little to improve your perspective about a college and may actually be misleading, it may sell books but does nothing to diminish the importance of a visit.
  • MBMikeBMBMikeB Registered User Posts: 38 Junior Member
    What a worthless survey. Is one seriously to believe the average high school student looks at SAs and even colleges like Brigham Young and Grove City and doesn't know what they would be getting into??

    ... That a high school junior is sitting there thinking,
    "Well, I was thinking about USNA but Gee, I can't keep weed in my room,,,Oh never mind."

    They should keep to the stats and let intelligent minds figure it out for themselves....or find the right place for sound advice. But hey, it sells I'm sure.
  • GoNavyXCGoNavyXC Registered User Posts: 467 Member
    I'm going to be quite blunt about this. I'm not suprised that our student body is among the most conservative. Look at the business we're in. I would like to see one of these agencies like the Princeton Review or the US News Report come up with some good rankings measuring college performance. If you look at CC on the whole, most of the students on here are very liberal. If you ask an older person to list the top 25 undergraduate institutions as a whole, most of them are going to put USNA and USMA on the list. I don't think we get enough credit for what we do from the student demographic of kids my age. A lot of them don't even know the Naval Academy, which is a shame. At the end of the day, we're still one of the most selective schools (only 13% of candidates are admitted) and I wouldn't want to be anywhere else, I don't care what the rankings say.

    If you asked some of the conservative kids if the Naval Academy is among the best schools, they'll probably say yeah. The rest of the kids on CC are so Ivy crazed that they don't realize a lot of the kids at the Service Academies are probably just as talented as those kids in the Ivy League. I can't even count how many people I know here who got into an Ivy League school and are coming here instead. I guess really all that matters is that even though the Naval Academy is not well respected on CC, the people who matter in the outside world do care about it. We're not here for prestige or recognition, but these Princeton Review and US News Report scams on college rankings often do not tell the whole story about colleges, particularly the Service Academies.
  • tatterrytatterry Registered User Posts: 10 New Member
    Well said!
  • zanerdude09zanerdude09 Registered User Posts: 139 Junior Member
    that's funny! Do mids even know what weed is? While I was at NASS there was no thought, mention, or joke of drugs. I'm going to associate the low drug levels at USNA with the high levels of conservatives :)
  • zanerdude09zanerdude09 Registered User Posts: 139 Junior Member
    I recently read one of those ranking magazines and there was an ***asterisk *** by each of the service academies. the explanation said something about how the academies selection criteria and government affiliation made it impossible to rank with "normal" colleges and universities. Darn liberal media.
  • GoNavyXCGoNavyXC Registered User Posts: 467 Member
    Yeah, because they don't want to admit that it's tougher to get into USxA, than 95% of the other schools out there. We have an unconventional way of doing it. I don't know of any other college admissions program that requires a literal "Act of Congress" to get in.

    No, but really, when you have "waivers" and "medical boards" and "nominations", it does become sort of difficult to place us in a ranking difficulty system.
  • itlstallion422itlstallion422 Registered User Posts: 344 Member
    that's funny! Do mids even know what weed is? While I was at NASS there was no thought, mention, or joke of drugs. I'm going to associate the low drug levels at USNA with the high levels of conservatives

    Random unrinalysis is my anti-drug:)
  • zanerdude09zanerdude09 Registered User Posts: 139 Junior Member
    ....and does smoke come out of uniforms!
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