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APs vs SATIIs

RAVENnationRAVENnation 5 replies1 threads New Member
edited November 2012 in Northwestern University
Do SATIIs serve a similar purpose to APs? I took SATIIs in Math (level 1 and 2) and English, and did horribly on all three of them. For whatever reason, it just isn't my test. I know it's not standardized testing cause I did well on my SATs-over 1400 out of 1600 and over 2000 out of 2400. I self-reported by APs scores and they were on my official transcript (from my school). 4 on US gov, 4 on English Language and Composition and 4 on calc AB. Do these serve a similar purpose to what strong SATII scores would?
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  • CriesandWhispersCriesandWhispers 65 replies9 threads Junior Member
    No? You have to officially send SAT 2 scores while AP scores are self reported and aren't counted as much.
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  • RAVENnationRAVENnation 5 replies1 threads New Member
    @criesandwhispers
    Why does it make a difference if they were officially reported? They're on my official school transcript, which I know isn't the same as officially sending scores through college board, but they're definitely as legitimate as SAT IIs, in terms of the trustworthiness of the scores.
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  • Crimsonstained7Crimsonstained7 1282 replies18 threads Senior Member
    The AP scores are based a lot off of subjective sections, so it isn't necessarily "trustworthy." Plus, the fact that you've taken AP tests in general helps you in the admissions process, so getting a high score in the test would kind of be a double hurt for people who had no AP classes.
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  • RAVENnationRAVENnation 5 replies1 threads New Member
    @Crimsonstained7
    Oddly enough, I've never actually taken AP course. For gov I prepped with my mock trial coach/criminal law teacher with about 5 other students once a week for 5-6 months, for calc I took an "accelerated" calc course (we don't call them AP, rather certain accelerated courses are AP prep and the whole class takes the test) and for english I went in completely blind--they say all of our electives prepare you for the AP.
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  • RAVENnationRAVENnation 5 replies1 threads New Member
    @Crimsonstained7
    Oddly enough, I've never actually taken an AP course. For gov I prepped with my mock trial coach/criminal law teacher with about 5 other students once a week for 5-6 months, for calc I took an "accelerated" calc course (we don't call them AP, rather certain accelerated courses are AP prep and the whole class takes the test) and for english I went in completely blind--they say all of our english electives prepare you for the AP.
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  • cowboycliche022cowboycliche022 203 replies21 threads Junior Member
    @RAVENnation

    If you search Northwestern's Undergraduate Admission website, you'll quickly discover that two SAT Subject Tests are recommended but not required, unless you're applying to HPME, ISP, or you're homeschooled: The SAT, ACT, and Recommended Exams FAQs: Office of Undergraduate Admission - Northwestern University

    Note, though, that the ISP program will accept AP scores in place of SAT II scores for the required math, physics, and/or chemistry assessments: Integrated Science Program Admissions Qualifications

    Perhaps this answers your question regarding the relative weight of SAT II's versus AP tests. I personally neither took nor submitted any SAT II's. I did, however, have a significant number of AP scores reported, on most of which I scored exceptionally. If you're worried about NU questioning the legitimacy of your self-reporting on the Common App, just call the College Board and have them send an official score report of your AP tests to NU.

    I'll leave you with this final thought: if you've scored well enough on the SAT or ACT, sending in mediocre SAT II and/or AP scores can probably only hurt you. You have to realize that there are a significant number of applicants who have 800's on ten SAT II's, 5's on thirteen AP tests, or even both (yes, I'm exaggerating, but you get my point). The question you must ponder is "Will this truly boost my application, or will it make me look less desirable compared to other applicants?"
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  • Crimsonstained7Crimsonstained7 1282 replies18 threads Senior Member
    ^^^ That pretty much sums it up. I didn't do any SAT II's either, and we'll see how I do on the 15th!
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