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Applying ED without SAT IIs?

uppersanddownersuppersanddowners Registered User Posts: 69 Junior Member
edited November 2013 in Northwestern University
Hey all, do you think it would hurt my chances to not send in subject test scores with my application? My reasoning score is 2240 from one sitting (730 CR/710 M/800 W) and I have a slightly below average GPA at a VERY competitive boarding school (arguably the most competitive in the country.) Below average because my grades in 9th/10th grade were sub par, I've been on an upward trend since the beginning of Junior year. My brother currently attends NU if that makes any difference, my recs are excellent, ECs are very good, and essays are in the works. I am registered to take subject tests this Saturday, but I'm not 100% confident that I'll score above 700 on them as I have not had much time to study lately, and if I send them in with my ED app I will have to do so before I am able to see the scores myself. I don't know that it would be in my best interest to risk this, as I could take the tests, rush the scores, and find out later that I scored <650 on all of them.
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Replies to: Applying ED without SAT IIs?

  • Crimsonstained7Crimsonstained7 Registered User Posts: 1,300 Senior Member
    SAT IIs are optional, so no, not sending them won't do anything. I got in ED with no SATIIs, and know plenty of other people who did too
  • billcshobillcsho Registered User Posts: 18,405 Senior Member
    It depends on the school you are applying. It would be fine without SAT2 if it is just recommended. See below:

    Northwestern University [Math Level 2; Chemistry; and Physics required of
    applicants to Integrated Science Program; Math Level 2 and Chemistry required of applicants to Honors Program in Medical Education; two recommended for all other applicants]
  • uppersanddownersuppersanddowners Registered User Posts: 69 Junior Member
    I am applying to Weinberg as an undecided Arts & Sciences major, so it definitely wouldn't hurt me to leave subject tests out of my application, but that being said, it could potentially help me to include them. I have heard from many people that when schools "recommend" Subject Tests it is similar to if they were to provide an "optional" supplement. In other words, it is generally assumed that they will be submitted unless a student is unable to take them for whatever reason.
  • billcshobillcsho Registered User Posts: 18,405 Senior Member
    If the scores are good, do send them in.
  • texasteentexasteen Registered User Posts: 129 Junior Member
    I asked one of the admissions counselors and they told me it didn't matter in the process
  • Crimsonstained7Crimsonstained7 Registered User Posts: 1,300 Senior Member
    I think I remember an admission person once telling someone here that it was a good thing if you didn't do well in a subject once or something to prove you know that subject.
  • nugraddadnugraddad Registered User Posts: 1,302 Senior Member
    crimsonstained - You have a mind like a Wildcat! That was me relating that my son was told by an Admit that he didn't need to take any SAT IIs since he had a 4.0 and all 5s on his AP tests. The Admit said that if you scored low on a grade or on an AP and wanted to show that you did actually know a subject, then it would be good to take a SAT subject test.

    OP - I think a brother at NU helps,and your ED app would be good - although obviously no guarantee. Good luck.
  • Crimsonstained7Crimsonstained7 Registered User Posts: 1,300 Senior Member
    So I wasn't making something up, good. I was worried that I imagined someone mentioned that.

    Brother at NU may help, but it won't be as much help as a parent would be, I'm assuming.
  • nugraddadnugraddad Registered User Posts: 1,302 Senior Member
    crimsonstained - Anecdotal stories are not really evidence, but my son got in ED with a big sister as an alum. So, it can work - but there are so many other factors involved that it would be hard to isolate if there is One Single Factor that puts an applicant over the top. I think NU is holistic, and it never hurts to have a little luck - maybe an experienced "reader".
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