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how many elite school grads are in those unemployed statistics?

choatecolatechoatecolate 127 replies46 threads Junior Member
edited June 2012 in Parents Forum
i hear so many people complain about not having jobs etc... but how many students from ELITE colleges with top majors such as engineering, computer science, economics are affected by this?

im talking top 25 USNews or so...im not interested in those from community college, for profit, or bad state school
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  • insomniaticinsomniatic 1220 replies67 threads- Senior Member
    im not interested in those from community college, for profit, or bad state school

    lol "bad" state schools
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  • choatecolatechoatecolate 127 replies46 threads Junior Member
    huh? im curious as to the difference in employablity in a HPY anthropology grad vs a state school anthropology grad....
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  • annasdadannasdad 4677 replies150 threads Senior Member
    That would depend on the individual.
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  • oldfortoldfort 23089 replies293 threads Senior Member
    You could go to each school's career center to get the information.
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  • weathergaweatherga 693 replies8 threads Member
    ... top majors such as engineering, computer science, economics ...

    This is a side topic, but I was struck by the OP's mention of "top" majors. Over the long haul, employment prospects for different majors wax and wane. When I graduated as a computer science major in 1978, the job market for computer science grads wasn't good at all. It's been up (way up) and down again at different times in the ensuing decades. I'm less well acquainted with employment prospects for engineers and economists, but I expect that they are not constant over time either.
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  • GladGradDadGladGradDad 2804 replies14 threads Senior Member
    but how many students from ELITE colleges with top majors such as engineering, computer science
    The top schools for engineering/computer science are probably not the schools you're thinking of if you're thinking HYP.

    And you probably don't hear about many CS grads from schools with top engineering/CS programs, which includes many state universities, complain about not having jobs because most of them end up with multiple offers.

    I'm sure the people graduating from the state schools known for their engineering programs do better on the job marketplace than a small state school with an unknown engineering program. Ditto for the privates. But that's a no-brainer so I don't know why you're asking the question.
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  • UMMom2015UMMom2015 100 replies1 threads Junior Member
    Sad to say I have an Ivy class of 2012 unemployed engineer.
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  • arabrabarabrab 5890 replies78 threads Senior Member
    Hard to say -- I suspect the schools massage these statistics just as much as the law schools have, and with even greater ease.

    I am also hearing of a fair number of kids from our town who went to tippy-top colleges who are doing TFA for a couple of years; not sure how much that reflects sincere interest vs.simply productive work when desired jobs aren't available.
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  • epiphanyepiphany 8405 replies170 threads Senior Member
    I was about to say that being committed to relocating is often crucial to the first real opportunity in or near one's field of study.
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  • ucbalumnusucbalumnus 79786 replies715 threads Senior Member
    oldfort wrote:
    You could go to each school's career center to get the information.

    It appears that only a relative few schools have detailed career surveys:
    http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/internships-careers-employment/1121619-university-graduate-career-surveys.html
    (see Cal Poly SLO, CMU, MIT, UC Berkeley, and Virginia Tech for more detailed surveys)
    arabrab wrote:
    I suspect the schools massage these statistics just as much as the law schools have, and with even greater ease.

    Given the often poor results reported, it is unlikely that they are all being massaged -- but one must be careful comparing reports from different schools due to differences in survey methodology.
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  • ellemenopeellemenope 11344 replies36 threads Senior Member
    Sad to say I have an Ivy class of 2012 unemployed engineer.

    Bummer, UMMom2015...
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  • parentofpeopleparentofpeople 1251 replies75 threads Senior Member
    DD just graduated and everyone she knows from school either has a great job lined up, or have been accepted to and will be attending grad school. We were actually surprised by this given the employment statistics right now. Her Uni has a strong engineering school and a strong business school and I think that helped a lot. Most of her close friends from home who went to top schools also have jobs lined up or are moving on to grad school as well.

    When we went to a grad party for a friend's DD who went to lower ranked school (as did a lot of her HS friends who were there too) we noticed that most of the kids attending did not have jobs lined up or were still trying to figure out what they want to do.

    I am not saying all kids from top schools have jobs and all kids from other schools don't, I am just saying the actual observation of recent graduates we have been around showed a clear difference in the employment results.

    Obviously not a formal study, but a stark difference.
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  • scout59scout59 3535 replies68 threads Senior Member
    Another biased data point: we just attended D's college graduation last week. Afterwards we were talking to one of her favorite professors, who mentioned what a good year it was for employment of their graduates. Even more anecdotally, all of D's graduating friends have jobs in their field waiting for them post-graduation.

    The kicker is, her school is definitely not elite (you've probably never heard of it), and yet these graduates are doing fine. So much depends on the strength of the major and the determination of the student that I think this "HPY anthropology grad vs a state school anthropology grad" comparison is just silly.
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  • kiddiekiddie 3583 replies223 threads Senior Member
    Anecdotal information - the one person I know who graduated Harvard last month is unemployed with no job prospects in sight. Majored in Public Health.
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  • NewHavenCTmomNewHavenCTmom 1971 replies57 threads Senior Member
    A young women that I know who is from my town/went to my dd's elementary school... she just graduated from Harvard and she had several jobs lined up in early spring! One was in finance and the other with a cosmetics company...I can't remember the 3rd...
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  • swattiechickswattiechick 214 replies5 threads- Junior Member
    Not a "top" major but my sister just graduated from Columbia as a Film and Linguistics Major and is extremely unemployed...surprise surprise.
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  • jym626jym626 56327 replies2941 threads Senior Member
    I didn't think Harvard had an undergraduate degree in Public Health.

    Had an interesting set of sort of dichotomous experiences this weekend- Met someone whose granddau just graduated from Auburn with a commuication degree and landed a nice job with a large company at their international hqtrs. Don't know if the girl had internships or not, which, IMO, is very important in this job market.

    Then met another girl who was transferring from a local U to the big state flagship U. Is majoring in journalism and linguistics. Granted she is still in school. But currently she is waitressing (badly, as she admits) at Waffle House. But at least she is earning some income. Good for her.

    A friend's s just graduated in 3 years from MIT (dont recall his major). Has decided to start his own tutoring business up in the Boston area.

    Another friend's daus are both engineers from a top school. The biomechanical engineer is employed. The Environmantal engineer moved with her husband to the Baltimore/Washington area inconjunction with his job (aeronautical eng, I believe). She couldnt find a job. Went to grad school and after a year or so found a pt time job she is doing while in grad school.

    So hard to predict, though I do think the economy and job market is improving.
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  • momofthreeboysmomofthreeboys 16642 replies66 threads Senior Member
    A report on a Michigan LAC (ranked in the mid-60s USNWR) Kalamazoo College graduates

    Kalamazoo College graduates won't rush into job, but confident to find one | MLive.com
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  • HannaHanna 14866 replies42 threads Senior Member
    Harvard offers Global Heath & Health Policy as a secondary field...it's a department led by an interdisciplinary faculty committee.
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