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seeking suggestions of universities

goodbetterbestgoodbetterbest Registered User Posts: 72 Junior Member
edited July 2013 in Parents Forum
Hello dear parents and experts on college selections, my DD is a rising senior. Her stats are:
SAT: 2340: 760-790-790 (June 2013). Superscore: 2350 770-790-790.
SAT2: Bio: 770, World History: 700. She will take SAT2 Math2 and Chemistry in Oct.
PSAT: 226 (Texas)
Her GPA for first two years in high school is uw: 3.99
She had 4 APs with 5,4,5,5
She probably is 1st place in high school for the first 2 years (based on the AP courses she took and the grades she got. However, the school did not include her in their ranking because she already left).
She went to a different very competitive high school on college campus.
Her GPA currently is 3.36 (all college credits). After Summer I, it maybe 3.51.
She wants to go to medical school in the future.
She will apply to Rice, UT Austin (she may not be able to get in, since her current high school has no ranking, plus her ranking won't be high anyway. Maybe 25-50%), Texas A&M, UT Dallas.
She needs to decide on undergraduate major and a few more schools. She wants to either go to in-state (Texas) or go to somewhere that is cold. She missed the snow.
She is Asian
Could you please give me some suggestions?
Thank you.
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  • whenhenwhenhen Registered User Posts: 5,641 Senior Member
    You should ask the guidance counselor at your daughter's new high school how its graduates manage to get into rank heavy Texas universities.

    Is your daughter's high school a "dual college" program where students earn their associates during their high school careers? If so, it may be that for some publics they apply as a transfer (that was the case with one of the dual college programs near my house), whereas for other schools students apply as freshmen, albeit freshmen with an enormous number of credits. Again, that's something your daughter's guidance counselor should be able to clarify on.
  • CanuckHornCanuckHorn Registered User Posts: 113 Junior Member
    In addition to the other Texas schools Trinity University is worth considering - they have a very good record of placing their students into good medical schools. Look into Carleton, Colgate, Colby, Colorado College and Cornell.
  • HoggirlHoggirl Registered User Posts: 1,713 Senior Member
    Just a wow on scores. Your daughter only missed one on math and got a 790? When my ds took it he missed one and got a 760. :/ That stuff always bugs me a bit, but congrats to your dd.
  • goodbetterbestgoodbetterbest Registered User Posts: 72 Junior Member
    They will apply as freshmen with more than 60 credit hours. She will have about 75 credit hours when she goes to another college. They are taking general college courses offered to first two years of college students and with college students, such as English, Biology, Math, History, Chemistry, and Physics.
    The students with better GPA are accepted by Caltech, Rice, and other good schools. Actually some of their students got rejected by UT Austin, even though that student was accepted by Rice (because of no ranking?). With her GPA, I have no idea which school will accept her.
  • katwkittenskatwkittens Registered User Posts: 2,299 Senior Member
    Does your daughter want to use her college credits when she matriculates as a freshman? I ask because some schools will not accept/credit her for those 75 units. Same concept as limiting credits granted for AP scores of 5s. The schools limit the amount of units you can use to graduation.

    If her goal is to use those 75 units and apply them towards graduation she would need to find schools that would honor those units. Does she want 4 years of undergrad or does she want to shorten that time?

    If she is looking to med school she should 1) keep her debt/your debt low, 2) fulfill her prereqs while being mindful of the new prereqs added and the new subjects for the new MCAT 3) learning to manage her GPA, while balancing ECs, shadowing, research and volunteering during undergrad.

    Med schools would prefer her prereqs be met at 4 year schools vs community college.

    What schools interest her besides what you listed?

    Kat
  • whenhenwhenhen Registered User Posts: 5,641 Senior Member
    Are you sure it's impossible to apply as a transfer into UT Austin? I considered the school when I was deciding on potential transfer schools and most of UT's auto admission for transfer requirements line up with what your daughter has taken.

    Anyways,

    Your daughter is an unusual applicant in that her SAT scores are extremely high, and because she switched from a less academically challenging high school to one that is substantially more so (the drop in GPA coupled with 75 college credits will reflect this). Thus the GPA may prove to be unimportant for all but the most selective schools.

    Beyond the Ivies and other extremely selective schools (which personally I wouldn't consider completely out of reach), you might want to look into U Rochester, Brandeis, and Tufts. Carleton and Macalaster may also fit your preferences.
  • goodbetterbestgoodbetterbest Registered User Posts: 72 Junior Member
    My daughter wants to finish her college in three years. Her GPA was caused by 2Cs in Calculus I and II, 2 Bs in Chemistry. She made a big mistake by started with Calculus I, because her adviser suggested her to start with Pre-Cal but she was a little greedy. All other courses are A so far. Now in order to pull up the GPA, she will take more courses and hopefully score As in them. I don't like her strategy because I don't think she will have enough time or energy to deal with 6 courses instead of regular 4 courses. She also need to spend time on college application and club activities.
    She already had about 300 hours in volunteering.
  • moneypmoneyp Registered User Posts: 790 Member
    look at colgate, johns hopkins, washington u in st. louis
  • ucbalumnusucbalumnus Registered User Posts: 76,614 Senior Member
    She went to a different very competitive high school on college campus.
    Her GPA currently is 3.36 (all college credits). After Summer I, it maybe 3.51.
    She wants to go to medical school in the future.

    Unfortunately, she is already behind for medical school admissions. Medical school admissions calculates undergraduate GPAs (science GPA and overall GPA) including college courses taken while in high school; a 3.36 GPA (especially with worse grades in math and science) significantly worsens the probability of getting into any US MD medical school. Most pre-meds are lucky to get just one admission to a medical school, so they may not have much choice in terms of cost (medical school is typically very expensive).

    She also needs to be aware that many medical schools do not accept AP credit for pre-med course requirements (chemistry, biology, physics, math), so she may have to either retake the AP credit or take an equivalent number of more advanced college courses in those subjects.

    The pre-med forum may be helpful to ask about the above type of issues.

    She may want to think about what her plan will be if she is unable to get admitted into any medical school.

    If she makes National Merit Finalist, then Texas A&M should admit her with a good scholarship:
    https://scholarships.tamu.edu/national_scholars/national_merit.aspx
  • MadaboutxMadaboutx Registered User Posts: 1,592 Senior Member
    U of Chicago would give her some snow. Dartmouth and Cornell would supply literally tons of snow. Great schools so it just depends on how much she wants to be close to home and how badly she wants snow.

    On the flip side, your D could probably get a free ride in-state. Something to consider.
  • jusdafactsjusdafacts Registered User Posts: 48 Junior Member
    Take a look at Case Western in Cleveland (snow or at least cold). Austin College in Sherman Texas. Both have good track records for med school placement.
  • wis75wis75 Registered User Posts: 13,890 Senior Member
    Do NOT worry about her major at this point. There is no "best" major for premedical students. Many/most entering college freshmen will change or decide on their major after being in college. Do NOT play the best chances to get into medical school by going to a certain college game.

    Do choose schools where she will have academic peers- whether in the honors courses at a top public U or a good private school. Look at schools that are affordable (overall nonloan costs- grants and scholarships can make a huge difference). Look at schools with majors in areas she likes. Physicians come in many flavors- many different interests. Also keep in mind that despite her superlative credentials to date she may change her mind or not get into medical school. Plan college for her ability to major in a field she actively likes, not one as a steppingstone to medicine.

    Of course have her apply to her instate flagship(s). Consider nonacademic fit issues as well. Does she really want to be at a school such as Washington U (in St Louis) where a significant number of students are premed? Or would a school where the campus culture treats research as a primary goal of majoring in a science?

    btw- chemistry major and retired physician here with inlaw kids who did the Wash U thing. Son did Honors math- no interest in medicine .

    Always remember SHE is the one who needs to be in charge of her life and her applications. She needs to own the process.
  • MarianMarian Registered User Posts: 13,217 Senior Member
    A couple of people have already mentioned Cornell. It could be a good choice, especially if she enters as a transfer student rather than a freshman. Cornell is more hospitable to transfers than some other schools at its level.
  • MichiganGeorgiaMichiganGeorgia Registered User Posts: 4,472 Senior Member
    I don't know if taking 6 classes is a good idea. I would think it would be better to take 4 classes and make sure she got all A's than take 6 and perhaps overload herself. Remember in order to get in Med school you need a really good GPA and if she overloads herself and doesn't get all A's then she could be hurting her future Med school chances.
  • CreeklandCreekland Registered User Posts: 5,571 Senior Member
    I'll second U Rochester and Case Western as good northern schools to look into with her stats and desires. I'll also second taking fewer classes and doing better in them as a better plan.
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