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Which schools to apply for following profile of my son.


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  • BrownParentBrownParent 12597 replies179 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 12,776 Senior Member
    edited July 2014
    Stop panicking you have time and you don't need a college advisor. And don't apologize for helping your kid with the process, I think that is very necessary in this competitive environment.

    First, apply widely through the UC system since it is just one application, just pay the application fees. Also add a good number of CSU unless he is really averse in case of a shut out of UC. There is one kid posting recently with higher stats that yours and more/great EC and he didn't apply to many csu so didn't have choices and will be at CSU Fullerton this fall after no UC admission (he didn't apply everywhere.) Engineering is filling up and shutting people out. That one is a head scratcher, though.
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  • moonchildmoonchild 3266 replies30 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 3,296 Senior Member
    UC Santa Barbara is becoming a popular choice for engineering, has a stunning campus and is probably a bit easier to get into than UCSD right now, and certainly easier entry than UCLA or UCB. The few students I know who graduated from Santa Barbara had a good experience and have had no trouble finding jobs.
    If you're considering privates, USC is also another excellent California-based option.
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  • mom2collegekidsmom2collegekids 83915 replies1003 discussionsForum Champion Financial Aid, Forum Champion Alabama Posts: 84,918 Forum Champion
    Are you willing to be full-pay at UMich (engg and upper-division costs are probably 55k+ now)

    Your state has plenty of very good engg schools. try....SCU and USC for privates.
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  • MiamiDAPMiamiDAP 16183 replies1 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 16,184 Senior Member
    I woudl say that if UMich is under consideration, then there is no reason under the sky to pay that much if he can attend comparable and much smaller private Case Western paying very little in tuition.
    But it looks like CA is a choice of state any way. For engineering, as I have mentioned before, there is no reason to travel far. Specifically, my H. is an Electrical Engineer. All engineering firms that we know hire locally from the local colleges anyway.
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  • TorveauxTorveaux 1451 replies10 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 1,461 Senior Member
    Many good schools offer merit for OOS students. The test scores are good enough...how was the PSAT? Is he a candidate for NMS? That opened a lot of doors for our future engineer.
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  • LakeWashingtonLakeWashington 8845 replies470 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 9,315 Senior Member
    Sure, in the main, university hiring by engineering firms may be regional. However, there are "national schools" that attract employers from all over. It's well known that Illinois, Michigan, Georgia Tech, Purdue and Virginia Tech are such schools. But as MiamiDAP indicates, it's likely no advantage to attend said "name brand" engineering colleges and spend a lot more in tuition if you already have a fine (and affordable) option in your home state.
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  • blossomblossom 9591 replies9 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 9,600 Senior Member
    Miami Dap, most engineers do not end up working for "engineering firms". They work for large, global employers (airlines, pharmaceutical companies, consumer products companies, etc.) If this kid is interested in working for a local engineering firm then yes, where he goes to college won't matter as long as the program is accredited. But many large employers have a list of "core schools" from which they hire for roles all over the country, and their hiring from "local colleges" will be for very specific roles at a plant or manufacturing facility.

    Microsoft, GE, Pfizer, United Technologies, Siemens, Exxon-Mobile, Cisco, Apple, Procter and Gamble- these companies cannot recruit at the two or three colleges close to their headquarters and find anything close to the number of qualified candidates they need to staff their operations.

    There are tens of thousands of electrical engineers working at companies which recruited them thousands of miles away from where they studied. Your husbands experience is well and good-- and I'm sure he's had a fine career- but you continue to tell people that it doesn't matter where you go to college for IT, for engineering, for medical school, and your perspective is somewhat one sided.

    For SOME careers it matters where you go. You cannot compare a powerhouse school like Michigan for engineering with a small directional state college which may happen to have an engineering program. If a kid wants to design a build bridges for a small engineering firm in his or her home town than your advice is spot on. But there is a reason why UIUC, Michigan, MIT, Cal Tech (and lots of others) have national and international reputations in engineering. And their students typically do not end up at small, local engineering companies, your husband's experience notwithstanding.
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  • Erin's DadErin's Dad 32860 replies3607 discussionsSuper Moderator Posts: 36,467 Super Moderator
    @blossom, those large firms you mention also accept engineering grads from small directional Us. It's not all one way.
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  • kevbush777kevbush777 3 replies2 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 5 New Member
    I learning so much through this thread. Once again, Thanks for the inputs.
    His PSAT was 219 - 80(M) - 72(W) & CR(67). Did not make it to NMSQT as California cutoff was much higher.
    We are ready to fund his education if he gets into public schools (4-5 years) and I keep my job. If there is compelling private school, then he will either have to earn some grants/tuition waivers or take loan for the costs over public school. That's basically our financial situation.

    He had shown a lot of interest in CalPoly.
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  • ucbalumnusucbalumnus 76102 replies663 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 76,765 Senior Member
    blossom wrote:
    Microsoft, GE, Pfizer, United Technologies, Siemens, Exxon-Mobile, Cisco, Apple, Procter and Gamble- these companies cannot recruit at the two or three colleges close to their headquarters and find anything close to the number of qualified candidates they need to staff their operations.

    True, but the smaller companies are less likely to have the need or resources to recruit everywhere.

    Also, even at big companies like Apple, local schools like San Jose State are somewhat overrepresented as alma maters of the employees.
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  • xraymancsxraymancs 4661 replies19 discussionsForum Champion Graduate School Posts: 4,680 Forum Champion
    edited July 2014
    Take a look at the AITU schools as well. They are all private and have ABET accredited programs. The smaller ones offer significant merit aid to strong students. If you are in Illinois and Michigan, you can stop by IIT (Chicago), MSOE (Milwaukee), Rose Hulman (Indiana), and Kettering (Michigan).
    edited July 2014
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