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Will I be considered as a in-state resident?

dlaksowi1qwe23dlaksowi1qwe23 Registered User Posts: 3 New Member
My family recently moved to Georgia from NC, and I am considering going back to NC to live with my dad. My dad still stays in NC for work and my dad's health has gotten very worse latelty. I realized I need to stay with my dad to help him.
However, my mom and sister will stay here and pay taxes.

I have been wanting to attend Georgia tech. I know it is easier to get into as a in-state resident than a outside resident. Also, much cheaper tution and many scholarship opportunities as such HOPE scholarship, etc that only instate resident can have.

Will I still be considered as a in-state resident if my mom stays and pay taxes in GA?

I am a junior.
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Replies to: Will I be considered as a in-state resident?

  • thumper1thumper1 Registered User Posts: 70,454 Senior Member
    Will you be going to high school in Georgia for both your junior and senior years? Living with your dad?

    If so, I would think you would be considered an instate Georgia resident when you apply to college.
  • wis75wis75 Registered User Posts: 13,206 Senior Member
    You don't necessarily need to live in the state one of your parents lives in. For example in cases of divorce a child may be able to claim instate residency while living with the OOS parent. Double check with your Georgia school district- they would know the state rules better than any of us on CC.
  • thumper1thumper1 Registered User Posts: 70,454 Senior Member
    Actually, double check with the Georgia college you wish to attend. All have residency requirements on their websites.
  • saxsax Registered User Posts: 5,428 Senior Member
    edited August 2014
    Here are the Georgia guidelines for in state.
    http://www.catalog.gatech.edu/financial/general/classification.php

    A bit confusing. Seems like (under 1b ii )if your mom claims you as a dependent on her taxes you should be good.

    Maybe someone else here can look. I would also call GTech and explain and clarify.
  • thumper1thumper1 Registered User Posts: 70,454 Senior Member
    Right...clear as mud. The OP wants to stay in NC with the dad.

    To the OP...if you are completing two years of HS in NC, I'm guessing you would have instate status there. NC has tons of affordable and great instate public universities.
  • saxsax Registered User Posts: 5,428 Senior Member
    @thumper.... did you read 1bii and interpret it differently? Seriously, I know he needs to ask but it looks possible. Or am I missing something?

    So he goes and finishes HS in NC for 2 years but he can claim Georgia if his mom claims him on her taxes......?
  • thumper1thumper1 Registered User Posts: 70,454 Senior Member
    Maybe, Sax. Like I said...clear as mud. Very often the acid test is HS graduation place.

    Are these parents divorced? Sometimes schools allow kids of divorced parents to have residency even if the kid doesn't reside there...as long as a parent does reside in that state. It sort of looks like that is the case.

    But like I said...clear as mud!
  • saxsax Registered User Posts: 5,428 Senior Member
    edited August 2014
    Thanks Thumper.

    North Carolina is worse.......basically " we will know it when we see it"

    https://resdetermination.uncc.edu/residency-requirements
  • ClassicRockerDadClassicRockerDad Registered User Posts: 6,255 Senior Member
    edited August 2014
    I'm guessing

    LOL, that's the crux of the disagreement.

    The chapter and verse that sax cites says

    "A dependent student shall be classified as "in-state" for tuition purposes if EITHER i) the dependent student's parent has established and maintained domicile in the State of Georgia for at least twelve consecutive months immediately preceding the first day of classes for the term and the student has graduated from a Georgia high school OR ii) the dependent student's parent has established and maintained domicile in the State of Georgia for at least twelve consecutive months immediately preceding the first day of classes for the term and the parent claimed the student as a dependent on the parent's most recent federal income tax return. "

    So if the dependent student's parent has established and maintained domicile in the State of Georgia for at least twelve consecutive months immediately preceding the first day of classes for the term and the parent claimed the student as a dependent on the parent's most recent federal income tax return.

    Basically consider the three propositions
    A: Student shall be classified as "in-state" for tuition purposes
    B: the dependent student's parent has established and maintained domicile in the State of Georgia for at least twelve consecutive months immediately preceding the first day of classes for the term and the student has graduated from a Georgia high school
    C: the dependent student's parent has established and maintained domicile in the State of Georgia for at least twelve consecutive months immediately preceding the first day of classes for the term and the parent claimed the student as a dependent on the parent's most recent federal income tax return.

    Now reduce to logic expressions:

    A is true if B is true or C is true.

    Therefore

    If C is true then A is true even if B is false.

    In order to get in-state tuition C must be true. Get your mom to declare you as a dependent on her income tax return.
    clear as mud

    Crystal clear.
  • saxsax Registered User Posts: 5,428 Senior Member
    Thanks for breaking that down, Classic Rocker!
  • saxsax Registered User Posts: 5,428 Senior Member
    It looks possible that he may be considered in state in both.
  • Erin's DadErin's Dad Super Moderator Posts: 35,604 Super Moderator
    My family recently moved to Georgia from NC... My dad still stays in NC for work
    The way I read those statements I infer the parents are not divorced. Does the mom get to elect to file with the OP if they file married living separately?
  • saxsax Registered User Posts: 5,428 Senior Member
    I also infer they are married and in addition also not legally separated if that makes any difference. Way out of my league on the tax filing question but good additional point.
  • thumper1thumper1 Registered User Posts: 70,454 Senior Member
    edited August 2014
    Does the student need to satisfy all three of those requirements CRD? If so, and the student graduates from HS in NC, how will he satisfy letter B of the Georgia residency requirement...if he lives in NC and graduates from a NC HS?
  • ClassicRockerDadClassicRockerDad Registered User Posts: 6,255 Senior Member
    edited August 2014
    Does the student need to satisfy all three of those requirements CRD?

    No.

    A is the outcome (in-state tuition). B and C are the conditions to qualify.

    The rule as written is A is true IF EITHER (B is true) OR (C is true).

    Therefore A can only be false IF BOTH (B is false) AND (C is false)

    Since under Sax's proposal, C would be true, therefore A would be true irrespective of whether B is true.

    There are 4 possibilities:
    (1) B is true and C is true => A is true
    (2) B is true and C is false => A is true
    (3) B is false and C is true => A is true
    (4) B is false and C is false => A is false.

    We're talking about possibility (3). B (graduate from Ga HS) is false and C (mom claims OP) is true.
    Therefore A(instate tuition) is true.

    What part are you missing?


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