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Colleges your child crossed off the list after visiting, schools that moved up on the list. Why?


Replies to: Colleges your child crossed off the list after visiting, schools that moved up on the list. Why?

  • doschicosdoschicos Registered User Posts: 14,705 Senior Member
    @ShrimpBurrito If you visited last week, the regular academic calendar wasn't in session. I think that would make it harder to get a real feel for campus life and students having fun. :) But, I do agree that there are plenty of colleges out there, so fine to cross some off the list for gut feel type reasons.
  • dadof4kidsdadof4kids Registered User Posts: 235 Junior Member
    I love this thread. S is a recruited athlete so on the off chance someone figures out my identity I don't want to post his impressions yet and have it get back to a coach. Yes, I'm that paranoid. I will after that process is over, it's only fair to share my stories too.

    But I will say that the school that I thought he would love and the one I still think fits him best he did not like at all. And every negative he comes up with traces back to his first impression when we drove into town, before we had even seen the school. I'm pretty sure he would be happiest there, but so far he refuses to admit it. Even he admits that he is being irrational about it, but he can't shake that first impression.

    The one he thought was a waste of time to visit is now his favorite.

    Probably a few more to see. Should be an interesting year.
  • CADREAMINCADREAMIN Registered User Posts: 2,952 Senior Member
    @dadof4kids You should be that paranoid, until you sign the NLI, keep it close to vest. I am guessing the team and conference will end up being more important than the town and other things non-athletes consider important. Scales change for athletes. Good luck!
  • pkchamp89pkchamp89 Registered User Posts: 521 Member
    Down: Syracuse university. We all so wanted to like it. It's nothing the school did or didn't do. It was the fit. On paper the school had it all.

    Surrounding downtown Syracuse was not the greatest. After 7pm the streets were vacant. Almost bizarrely quiet. Just picture blinking street lights and not another car or person around. In all fairness, it was a holiday Monday but didn't think that the city would be that much of a sleepy town.

    Whitman school of business put on a wonderful presentation complete with food, drinks and swag.

    Campus was nice. Went to a women's basketball game at the carrier dome and had fun.

  • FallGirlFallGirl Registered User Posts: 7,485 Senior Member
    My youngest is starting his senior year of college so it has been a long time since I took my own kids on tours. A few weeks ago I accompanied my sister and niece (rising HS senior) on a tour of my state flagship - UVA.

    The welcome session was informative and the admin (an alum, maybe about 30 yo) was entertaining as well. Told a few fun stories but got a lot of information out. Tour guide likewise was excellent - we were all impressed.

    Overall vibe - good school with top notch academics and smart students, but room for fun. No pretentiousness at all. My niece plans to apply.
  • CB04CB04 Registered User Posts: 32 Junior Member
    Off tangent: funny perhaps misleading thing about Naviance. UMD for my S HS is almost 98 and 1600. Fairfield 95 and 1270. I know my HS is competitive but these higher numbers have turned my son off to some schools assuming he has no chance. Seeing different HS numbers is eye opening.
  • CB04CB04 Registered User Posts: 32 Junior Member
    sorry 1350 for UMD
  • CB04CB04 Registered User Posts: 32 Junior Member
    Penn State 1270 and 95
  • citivascitivas Registered User Posts: 487 Member
    @CB04 How many data points for your son's school for UMD? We always look at the size of the data set for any given school before deciding if the data is meaningful. Fortunately most of the schools my kids have looked at so far have enough data points but there are exceptions and we discount those exceptions as not useful and rely on other measures. Having used most of the sites and data sets available, we still find our school's Naviance account by far the most predictive and useful but they have full data for 1,500 students for 8 years. The second most useful is to look up and study the full Common Data Set for the school's your S/D are serious about. BTW, they updated the UI for Naviance within the last year or so and I have mixed feelings about it. Some things are better and more useful but some things were easier to see and compare previously.
  • CB04CB04 Registered User Posts: 32 Junior Member
    @citivas Hmm got me. Where would I find Data Points on Naviance? Thanks.
  • citivascitivas Registered User Posts: 487 Member
    @CB04 It depends which UI version your school is using. In the version my kids' school uses (which I think is the latest), once you select a specific school there are numerous options near the top. One of them is "Admissions" (Between Student Life and Costs). If you click on Admissions and scroll down, it will tell you both numerically and with a visual graphic of little bodies how many people from your kids' school applied, were accepted and how many attended for each of the last three years. When I tried it for Rutgers, for example, a popular options for my kids' school because it's in-state, in 2017 it showed that 186 applied, 150 were accepted and 24 enrolled. This is a lot of data and is consistent each year. On the other hand if a school only has a couple applicants each year in your case, that would be pretty useless data. Most are in-between -- even 10 applicants a year for a specific school is a good data set, sometimes even less.
  • 4kids4us4kids4us Registered User Posts: 112 Junior Member
    Where in Naviance do you find your kid's h.s. stats for a particular college? I know I was able to see it earlier this spring when logged into my daughter's Naviance account, but now I can't find it anywhere. Could her school have deleted it that information? Her account is still active in that I can see her profile, list of schools she applied to, etc. but I can't seem to find where the graph is that shows the stats from her h.s. for colleges she applied to (I forget the term for that). I ask, because @CB04's post about UMD made me want to go back and look at D17's h.s. stats. We are MD residents and she was accepted into UMD but her stats are lower than what CB04 posted for his son's h.s. so I wanted going to compare with my daughter's school.
  • wisteria100wisteria100 Registered User Posts: 3,045 Senior Member
    Sometimes you will see high stats in Naviance for a school and it strikes you as odd, because the guidance counselor may be telling higher stats kids to apply and use it as a safety.
  • TheGreyKingTheGreyKing Registered User Posts: 952 Member
    edited August 12
    @4kids4us -- in Naviance, you can find the info you seek in three places: under college match, acceptance history, and scattergrams. The scattergrams are good for comparing your child's statistics (GPA, test scores) to those of students from his high school who were accepted, waitlisted, and rejected. Search by name of college.

    Naviance is a cool tool, but I am not sure how reliable it is. One reason for my doubt is that many top colleges have become much more selective recently, so even data from 2011 is old. The second reason is specific to our situation, although others on this site may have a similar situation. At my son's school with about 300 students per class, very few apply to small liberal arts colleges, so the samples are too small to be a good guide for the small schools that interest my son-- although he can get a better predictor for some larger schools of interest. For example, since 2011, 738 kids from his school applied to Binghamton, but only 4 applied to Bates.
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