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Colleges your child crossed off the list after visiting, schools that moved up on the list. Why?


Replies to: Colleges your child crossed off the list after visiting, schools that moved up on the list. Why?

  • CB04CB04 Registered User Posts: 32 Junior Member
    I guess the moral of the story is best to check actual college website for accepted student stats.
  • 4kids4us4kids4us Registered User Posts: 112 Junior Member
    @TheGreyKing, I wonder if I'm logged in to the wrong thing. On the h.s. website, there is a link for Naviance Family Connection. I'm logged in with my daughter's username and password. I'm then on a homepage that says "welcome to Naviance..." At the top are two tabs, one says "Colleges" and the other "About Me" then down the left are various links. There is nothing anywhere that says "college match" "acceptance history" or "scattergrams." When I click on the "colleges" tab, it then has another link for "colleges I'm applying to" - when cIick on that, it shows all the colleges my daughter applied to, and then sort of a check off list for each school that shows the type of application, when it was submitted, whether she was accepted, etc. I've clicked all around the site and cannot find any of the things you mention - however, I DID see that information at some point. I know I saw scattergrams, etc somewhere for her high school b/c during the admissions process, I looked at it for the schools she was applying to. But now I can't find it anywhere - I've got to wonder if I'm logged in to the wrong thing? There is no other link for Naviance on the school's website. Perhaps my daughter will know but she's at work until late tonight. Just annoyed that I know I saw it before and now can't find it.
  • citivascitivas Registered User Posts: 487 Member
    Again, it depends on how much data your school collects, but for us the Naviance data is FAR more accurate than using the school's website for national stats or any analog to that. The national stats would probably be meaningful if your school was very near the national mean. But many schools are either materially above or below it. Thus why our school specific acceptance rate for Rutgers is way above their national stat, but the acceptance rate for some very selective schools is well below the average (because so many competitive kids from their school apply making the school-specific competition harder than the national average). Similarly, as others have noted there are certain schools that are weird aberations where they should be easier to get into than they are and they line up with the popular "safeties" at the school.

    Again, I'm one of these research junkies and reviewed and collected a lot of data from many sites before my oldest went to college and then reviewed how it faired after his and his closest peers acceptances. And Naviance was basically spot on. This was consistent with what local parents of older kids had told us to, to trust Naviance. With my oldest, who was way above the mean on leadership EC's, you could basically give him a 0.15 weighted GPA bump over whatever the average acceptance dataset was for his school in Naviance and perfectly predict where he was accepted. We knew his EC's would be a bump and if I had predicted beforehand I would have guessed at least 0.1, so it wasn't far off. The net result is by using Naviance to determine what was Reach vs. Match vs. Safety, he got into all his Matches and Safeties and a couple of the nearer Reaches.

    Mileage will vary dramatically from school to school depending on the size of the school, how good the school is at getting full participation in the data (our school is excellent at that -- it's basically compulsory), how many years of recent data and whether the schools you are looking at our common choices or unusual for your school. But for schools with good data, it would be a mistake to dismiss it as no better than the national stats. Orders of magnitude better for some.
  • doschicosdoschicos Registered User Posts: 14,705 Senior Member
    @TheGreyKing I'm really surprised your school uses data as old as 2011. My kids' school only used the past 3 years of data for the reason you state - the admissions landscape changes so fast, that older data isn't helpful or accurate.

    Each high school can tailor what is shown on their naviance so what someone else can see might be different from what you can see.
  • citivascitivas Registered User Posts: 487 Member
    @4kids4us 1) Individual schools can turn certain features on and off for different users. Our school doesn't even let students have access to selecting schools they may apply to until the start of Junior year and it turned off most of the data for our eldest son a few weeks after graduation. No idea if that's happening in your case. 2) Try clicking on one of the colleges in her list or using the search feature to find another college. Once you do there should be a list of horizontal menu options across near the top. What I see across are: "Overview Studies Student Life Admissions Costs" Admissions is where all the real data is, including scattergrams, unless your school has disabled that feature.
  • 4kids4us4kids4us Registered User Posts: 112 Junior Member
    @citivas I just looked around again and am going to assume they shut off access to that data sometime this summer. As far as clicking on one of the colleges on her list, there is nothing to "click" - it's more of a list of her colleges and a list of "to do" items with dates that they were submitted. At least I know that I'm not crazy and that I did see it at one point, but sounds like the school just turned it off after the kids graduated.
  • 4kids4us4kids4us Registered User Posts: 112 Junior Member
    @carolinamom2boys , yep, sorry! I actually thought this discussion was in a different thread I've also been reading where it would have been more on topic - didn't mean to derail this one.
  • doschicosdoschicos Registered User Posts: 14,705 Senior Member
    @4kids4us, if your daughter has graduated, yes, it is probably due to that fact. You would no longer have access.
  • exlibris97exlibris97 Registered User Posts: 775 Member
    UVA was gorgeous. We both loved the campus. Unfortunately, when we visited it was very hot and humid. My kids described it as a "hot oven with flies". Sadly that is our lasting impression of it.
  • TheGreyKingTheGreyKing Registered User Posts: 952 Member
    @4kids4us - while carolina mom is probably right, here is a quick answer to your question.
    Log in.
    There are 3 tabs at the top (colleges, careers, about me). Click on "colleges."
    Next look in the second category down- "college research."
    Now you can click on "scattergrams" or whatever else you like.
  • Pri930Pri930 Registered User Posts: 187 Junior Member
    For anyone interested in UMD stats for our school are
    Avg SAT 1363
    Avg GPA 3.62

    and we have a lot of data points. The least SAT is 1120
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