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Confederate battle flag fliers posted at American University

ucbalumnusucbalumnus Registered User Posts: 76,603 Senior Member
http://www.theeagleonline.com/article/2017/09/ten-confederate-flag-fliers-found-at-american-university

They had "Huzzah for DIXIE" on them, and cotton stalks attached to them.
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Replies to: Confederate battle flag fliers posted at American University

  • doschicosdoschicos Registered User Posts: 20,369 Senior Member
  • HarvestMoon1HarvestMoon1 Registered User Posts: 6,228 Senior Member
    This sounds like an outside job to me.
  • doschicosdoschicos Registered User Posts: 20,369 Senior Member
    Looks like you are correct, @HarvestMoon1. If you google "DC Counter Resistance", you'll see references to other incidents not on campus.

    http://dcist.com/2017/08/ward_4_residents_report_bigoted_fly.php
  • alhalh Registered User Posts: 8,528 Senior Member
    edited September 2017
    Here in the rural south, I saw a new confederate flag today in front of someone's home when I made the 14 mile drive to go to the closest bank. They just put it up in the last week or so. I see more and more flags. Really disheartening.
  • simba9simba9 Registered User Posts: 3,261 Senior Member
    When I was a kid in Ohio, people thought nothing of flying the Confederate flag, and we used to sing "Dixie" right alongside "The Battle Hymn of the Republic" in school. It's interesting to watch values change over time. I guess that's what happens when symbols get co-opted by extremist groups.
  • OHMomof2OHMomof2 Registered User Posts: 12,619 Senior Member
    There are a lot of Confederate flags around Ohio and I always wonder why. Ohio was a union state, an important underground railroad state. One state neighbor to our south was literally created by seceding from the rest of its state in order to NOT be part of the confederacy, and the other was neutral though part of the union. We are surrounded by union states.

    Whose heritage is being celebrated with confederate flags flown in Ohio???
  • momofthreeboysmomofthreeboys Registered User Posts: 16,676 Senior Member
    edited September 2017
    My college roommate was from the south and we used to argue about this all the time. I think for many it's just a southern pride thing and really has not much to do with the underlying Civil War. It doesn't bother me. People fly pirate flags and all kinds of flags and I don't give it much credence that they want to pillage or have a desire to steal. I just think people are getting way too ultrasensitive and trying to made broad generalizations that may or may not apply to an individual or what they may be thinking or believing.
  • ucbalumnusucbalumnus Registered User Posts: 76,603 Senior Member
    doschicos wrote:
    I have relatives in the deep South. They don't see it as a "southern pride" thing. They see it for it's racial symbolism. Perhaps at some point in history, it could be argued that it didn't represent that. But it does now.

    It did from the beginning. When the seceding states proudly wrote that they seceded because they "have had numerous and serious causes of complaint against our non-slave-holding confederate States with reference to the subject of African slavery" (Georgia) and that their "position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world" (Mississippi), it is hard to wash away the idea that the Confederate States (and therefore its symbols like flags) did not have anything to do with slavery or the racism around it.

    https://www.civilwar.org/learn/primary-sources/declaration-causes-seceding-states
  • OHMomof2OHMomof2 Registered User Posts: 12,619 Senior Member
    edited September 2017
    @doschicos mass wave of folks transplanted from places south to Ohio and other parts of the Rust Belt.

    It actually doesn't, because they mostly came from West Virginia and Kentucky! WV born out of determination NOT to secede with VA, and KY neutral-to-union.

    It's a puzzle.
  • ucbalumnusucbalumnus Registered User Posts: 76,603 Senior Member
    doschicos wrote:
    I've been struggling through Hillbilly Elegy (struggling because the writing quality is poor, IMO) but one of the themes in the book is the mass wave of folks transplanted from places south to Ohio and other parts of the Rust Belt. I wonder, @OHMomof2, if this explains the prevalence of confederacy symbolism in your state?

    Whether or not that is related, note that midwest cities tend to have high levels of racial segregation (with Chicago being the most common example of "the most segregated large city in the US"): https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-most-diverse-cities-are-often-the-most-segregated/

    For Ohio in particular, according to the list at the bottom of the above link, Cleveland is highly segregated, Cincinnati is somewhat more segregated than average, and Toledo and Columbus are close to average (marginally more segregated).

    Higher racial segregation is probably both a cause and result of higher racism.
  • katliamomkatliamom Registered User Posts: 12,868 Senior Member
    Ohio and Michigan have always been "fertile ground" for racism and the KKK. Those who fly the Confederate flag today may have had parents or grandparents in the Klan.
  • doschicosdoschicos Registered User Posts: 20,369 Senior Member
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