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Ethics of "Chancing" students

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  • lookingforwardlookingforward Registered User Posts: 32,394 Senior Member
    The idea is: this isn't about our view of our own high schools or even individual kids we know who met with success. Or not. Adcoms at top schools are dealing with a national pool, how kids learn, stretch, pursue goals, and think, across the nation. Yes, there are variations and allowances for that. Of course.

    So the chance-me responders who can only compare to what they know in their own high school, district, from meeting others at some competition or online, aren't doing the asker a service. Imo, when we talk about top and tippy top colleges, the OP would benefit if he/she is open to the right suggestions, able to evaluate what is legit. We get a funny issue where kids believe the advice that they need to win a national competition or take that 1520 higher and miss the rest. Or they're lopsided, but a couple of posters rave and the OP misses a chance to fine tune.

    Again, not sure it's unethical, but it is sloppy.

  • JHSJHS Registered User Posts: 18,344 Senior Member
    Talk about bullying!

    If the idea is that we are going to fill page after page of scaffolding for advertising with original, on-point ideas about "chancing" high school students (or their imaginary better selves), you are probably SOOL on that.

    However, the stuff you mention was not that far afield. We were talking about how admissions staff might regard dual enrollment classes on a kid's transcript. @QuantMech was talking about all the factors that might go into whether or not a kid took dual enrollment math classes. One of the anecdotes was that the child formerly known as QMP took college math courses not because she wanted to accelerate, but because she wanted to avoid the specific boys who were harassing her in her high school.
  • QuantMechQuantMech Registered User Posts: 7,927 Senior Member
    edited December 2017
    Well, she was also quite interested in math--but the boys were certainly a factor in her decision about how far to accelerate. (Also, it wasn't non-native-English speaking TA's, it was the math profs who were not native English speakers, in math classes too small to have TA's.)

    My underlying point is that "There are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy, Horatio." No one can tell the whole story in a college application. No one outside of admissions can really tell whether mentioning a part of the story would help or hurt.

    Thank you, JHS, for placing my comments in context. You accurately connected my recent posts to one component of chancing--namely, how are college classes regarded--just classes taken in the sequence of things, or more than that.
  • lookingforwardlookingforward Registered User Posts: 32,394 Senior Member
    ? Data gave an example of drives and moving to fulfill them.
    DE is DE, no matter the reason. (Of course, making wise choices in which classes is good.)
  • skieuropeskieurope Super Moderator Posts: 43,658 Super Moderator
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    And, we're done. Closing thread.
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