Replies to: Even at elite colleges, students go hungry

• #1

  AroundHere Registered User Posts: 3,574 Senior Member

  February 5

  MIT survey article
  
  https://www.thetech.com/2017/10/12/case-survey-results

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  Erin's Dad Super Moderator Posts: 35,748 Super Moderator

  February 5

  Interesting set of one-off examples quoted in the MIT info. I have trouble understanding some of the self inflicted problems there - parents not paying the EFC, students not talking to parents about needed care after a sexual assault, needing to pay for classes to get back into MIT. Since MIT meets full need food really shouldn't be a problem there.

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  circuitrider Registered User Posts: 2,983 Senior Member

  February 5

  ^You're assuming that some of these students wouldn't otherwise be going hungry at home, too.

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  Erin's Dad Super Moderator Posts: 35,748 Super Moderator

  February 5

  I believe all the schools that meet need also include Board with their offers. Perhaps I'm wrong.

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  circuitrider Registered User Posts: 2,983 Senior Member

  February 5

  ^I think you're right. But, the devil is in the details. How poor does someone have to be before they qualify for a complete full-ride that includes free room and board? I think there are families out there, in the $75-100k a yr. range who would be willing to forego being on the meal plan, if it meant saving a few bucks. And, that's where the risk begins of kids skipping meals, IMO.

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  TomSrOfBoston Registered User Posts: 14,058 Senior Member

  February 5

  How many of these students have a part time job, 10-15 hours a week?

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  AroundHere Registered User Posts: 3,574 Senior Member

  February 5

  The overall message is that students on financial aid are on tight budgets, and when an unexpected expense comes up, the food budget suffers. The specifics of what comes up varies from person to person, but something comes up about 10% of the time according to the survey.
  
  Many dorms at MIT are "cook for yourself," no meal plan required. The students who report being hungry at the beginning of the year waiting for financial aid checks are probably in those dorms. Possibly trying to stretch their food budgets to cover something else as well. Many reported needing to send money home for example.

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  AroundHere Registered User Posts: 3,574 Senior Member

  February 5

  @TomSrOfBoston the data compares motivation for working but not raw numbers
  
  https://www.thetech.com/photos/8287

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  sbjdorlo Registered User Posts: 5,069 Senior Member

  February 5

  I'll chime in since my son graduated from MIT. We could afford to pay for our portion of the bill and nothing more (EFC was usually around 7-8K, he had outside scholarships, and we paid between $1000 and $3000 a year). He was on the cheapest meal plan which meant it only covered some of his meals. He and got good at finding free food on campus. We could not send him much extra money. He always worked during the school year part time (violin teacher, TA, internship) and full time during the summers. I don't think he went hungry, but I'd have to ask him.
  
  I found out later that when he did a UROP during the first summer (and he chose to do this; he could have come home anytime), to save money, he couch hopped and sometimes spent the night in his lab (UROPs pay minimum wage, or at least they did). It was a very hard and miserable summer for him (we didn't know how bad it was), but it was also character building. He loved his time at MIT, and yes, on occasion, he did feel comparatively poor to his friends.
  
  

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  ClassicRockerDad Registered User Posts: 6,282 Senior Member

  February 5

  I've met many very strapped MIT students. These students do what they need to do.
  
  I had to quit my job while at MIT. I had to basically work on school every waking hour. My frat had 17 meals per week. I ate leftovers for the others.
  
  I have had MIT interns turn down our summer offers even though they were the best opportunities work wise because every dollar lower than the maximum offer they had was money they would otherwise have to borrow.

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  VickiSoCal Registered User Posts: 2,862 Senior Member

  February 5

  I was on financial aid at a private college and I skipped some meals due ot money being short.. Honestly, it wasn't the worst thing I ever went through.

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  Massmomm Registered User Posts: 3,553 Senior Member

  February 5 edited February 5

  The breaks are very hard on strapped kids. The cafeterias shut down, so there is no food. When we lived near Wellesley, we often hosted students who couldn't afford to go home, foster kids (who had aged out), and international students.

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  OHMomof2 Registered User Posts: 11,757 Senior Member

  February 6

  ^ D's school finds that an issue too @Massmomm , though the dorms do not close on breaks (which is already unusual and very helpful to those students who cannot go home or do not have one), the dining hall does, or goes to just a meal a day (with stuff that can be taken with the student for the next meal). .
  
  Some schools give dining vouchers that can be used in the town, make sure a kitchen stays open and stocked with pans and such.

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  brantly Registered User Posts: 3,254 Senior Member

  February 6 edited February 6

  Since MIT meets full need food really shouldn't be a problem there.

  I think people who have never been in a position of food insecurity would find it hard to understand.
  
  "Meets full need" does not mean that the student gets a full ride, with every last cent provided to cover all expenses. It means the school determines the need, not the family. Personal debt is not counted in need. A family could be paying off credit card debt -- or even debt to family members -- incurred due to past unemployment. A family could have a lowish income but have a lot of home equity. The student could have divorced parents but the noncustodial parent refuses to pay anything toward college. Yes, that last one is self-inflicted, but not the student's fault.
  
  If the family barely has enough money to feed the family at home, they won't have extra to send their child in college.
  
  

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  twoinanddone Registered User Posts: 18,951 Senior Member

  February 6

  And some students cannot work while in school, either because their visas do not allow it or because some other issue prevents it.
  
  I don't see why it is surprising that college kids are hungry when school children are hungry all the time. Our public schools send backpacks with food for the weekend home with kids because they otherwise wouldn't eat for 3 days. Our schools serve breakfast and lunch and know that those might be the only meals the students have for the day.

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