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Summer visits-where are you headed, any tips?


Replies to: Summer visits-where are you headed, any tips?

  • sailor7dsailor7d Registered User Posts: 6 New Member
    My S2 and I flew out to Columbus Ohio in August 2000 to see OWU,DENISON and KENYON. We had never been to Ohio before. My son's English teacher and college advisor wanted him to apply to Kenyon. He was an outstanding sprinter in track and Kenyon's track coach had encouraged him to apply. His SATs were 620v and 610m with a GPA of 3.3.Obviously he fell below the 30th percentile for Kenyon's standards. Still they could use a 10.8 100 meter and 22.9 200 meter performer. His prep school in MA sent the majority of its grads to NESCAC and other Tier I schools. No one he knew had attended Kenyon. Kenyon 's ranking In USNWR in 2000 was in the high 20's, low 30's pretty much same today. Yes the much .ballyhooed Athletic Complex did get done and I am told is outstanding. I have always placed a great deal of importance to a college's annual endowment status. Since the 1990's Kenyon has been extremely below what one should expect. Back in 2000 it was just under 200 million. Today, percentage-wise it is about the same. Their student body remains well under 2000. They continue to be hamstrung in the area of funding which restricts capital improvements and other support needs. Obviously still a desirable school thanks to a graduate named Paul Newman. My son graduated from Denison in 2005. He simply fell in love with the place at first sight. He had his ups and downs especially with some housing issues at times but overall enjoyed a great experience.
    He never applied to Kenyon. Union had appeal as did Bates but Denison offered him a merit sum which cut his costs in half. He decided to go ED and never looked back.
  • sailor7dsailor7d Registered User Posts: 6 New Member
    Yes BOBO my wife and I decided to expose our two teenage sons to as many schools within range of Boston as we could. These were made over a three year period from 1996-1998. A later trip to Ohio would occur in 2000. These do not include our NE visits to Fairfield, Marist, Vassar, Wesleyan, Trinity, Conn College, UCONN, Williams, Amherst, Holy Cross, WPI, Tufts, Babson, Bryant, Middlebury, UVM, St, Anselm's, Dartmouth, UNH, Bowdoin, Bates and Colby. My older son chose Wesleyan, Bates,and Middlebury. My younger guy liked Bates from these local schools. Of the outside NE schools they combined liked Colgate, LAFAYETTE, RICHMOND, DENISON,BUCKNELL and Union. S1 went ED to Wesleyan; S2 picked ED to Denison.
  • sailor7dsailor7d Registered User Posts: 6 New Member
    S1 went ED to Wesleyan and S2 to Denison. What has happened to Hartford CT is just terrible. Trinity is a wonderful institution with so much to offer. The school's future is now very much in jeopardy due to the rampant crime closing in around it.
  • sailor7dsailor7d Registered User Posts: 6 New Member
    If you know what has happened to Springfield College and the dire environment students deal with you have a foreshadowing of what Trinity is confronting on a growing basis. Northeastern in Boston has made great strides but my friend's daughter wanted out after just three months of tensions within her environment. City schools are facing mounting challenges as so many of their students are affluent and targeted.
  • doschicosdoschicos Registered User Posts: 19,511 Senior Member
    "The school's future is now very much in jeopardy due to the rampant crime closing in around it."

    Huh? I'm not a fan of Trinity but it's future is surely not in jeopardy. Let's not resort to hyperbole here.

    "Kenyon 's ranking In USNWR in 2000 was in the high 20's, low 30's pretty much same today. Yes the much .ballyhooed Athletic Complex did get done and I am told is outstanding."

    What has changed is the college's acceptance rate. It has dropped dramatically. I find it a tad disingenuous to first remark how unimpressive Kenyon's athletic center is (it's definitely not) then follow up with a comment that you here it is outstanding when questioned on your initial comment. I suggest in the future when posting on your college perceptions that you indicate your visits are almost 2 decades old rather than leaving the impression that they are recent. Context matters.

    "Obviously still a desirable school thanks to a graduate named Paul Newman."

    And a lot of other things including a top notch writing program. Today's applicants are more likely to feel connected to more recent alums like John Green and Josh Radnor as well as a little older alum Bill Watterson.

    I'm not a Kenyon alum or parent but it is a great school.
  • emptynesteryetemptynesteryet Registered User Posts: 200 Junior Member
    Not trying to be "rude" and I suppose what I am about to type may be taken as such :( it is not my intent. Sharing experiences from 20+ years ago is that really relevant in today's college hunt?

    My FIL went to Tulane (Masters) when acceptance rates were in the 70's. When the Corp of Engineers would say "Pick a school LSU, UNO, or Tulane" and the new engineers would just show up to class. His stories are not relevant to today's climate as much as he likes to share them.

  • gardenstategalgardenstategal Registered User Posts: 4,912 Senior Member
    @homerdog , while the Maine schools will feel pretty different than during the school year, lots of students find ways to stay on campus for the summer. Their payback for winter, if you will! So you may find students to chat with even if it's sleepy.
  • KnowsstuffKnowsstuff Registered User Posts: 2,428 Senior Member
    First off, if you don't like your guide then switch groups. The guide can make or break your tour experience. Secondly after seeing a few different campuses... All the chemistry buildings look the same. You don't have to do the full walking tour. You can venture off on your own. After awhile they all seem the same. Have your kid try to identify with the campus. Some schools just feel right.

    Meet with the heads of the departments or some professors. This is so much more useful. This is not an interview just fact-finding. This shows interest in the school plus you can use it in your essays.... What did you like about x school? Well.. When I met with Professor so and so we discussed.... X... Get it? Especially small lac... This can quickly lead to acceptance and scholarships. Always send an email to thank them and cc your regional counselor for that school. This is just a mature thing to do since you took someone's time plus it let's the regional school counselor know you are truly interested in the school.

    The day drags on so take some snacks and water /tea etc for a pick me up. Trust me, your impression of a school will change depending if your hungry, tired, out of it etc.

    If you go when schools in session have your child really look at the kids in general. Are these the types of kids you want to be with for 4 years? With two different types of kids we saw very small lac to big ten universities. Some schools have a funky cool vibe, some are very collegiate. Stop students of the schools you are going to ask questions. This was very useful actually. Just a quick, HI, we are touring today... What are somethings that help you decide on coming here? You will get answers you would not imagine and see the maturity of the students.

    All of the big hall school talks seem to be very similar and are the why you should go to that school talks. . It helps if your child actually looks up about the school prior to going to get some background.

    Have you kid write downs few notes about each school and you do the same. Because after going to several of these you will forget which school said what.......

    If you get to your school the night before then go to a local pizza etc place where students will be..... Kinda fun when kids are all wearing their school gear getting ice cream etc.

    Remember to have fun. Some kids find this stressful so gauge your kid....

    Lastly for now..... If they give out like free ice-cream.... Go for it!
  • ccprofandmomof2ccprofandmomof2 Registered User Posts: 390 Member
    @Knowsstuff How do you arrange meetings with professors or heads of departments?
  • drewsmom17drewsmom17 Registered User Posts: 234 Junior Member
    I'm getting excited to start the big tour loop on Thursday. The dept tours are always better than the general but we aren't able to schedule those for all of our visits.

    We toured NC State, impressive and huge. It was busy for a summer visit and a local pizza place was very good. We are having fun checking out local spots. The dept tour was good and we got to see a really interesting project in process.

    OH State offers a 5 PM tour so we're hitting Case Western in the morning and driving down to take the late OH tour in a day. I'm curious how that time of day will compare.
  • drewsmom17drewsmom17 Registered User Posts: 234 Junior Member
    edited July 2018
    @ccprofandmomof2 We have scheduled 2 dept tours and found them online under the dept web pages. We have not tried to visit with any professors.
  • momofsenior1momofsenior1 Registered User Posts: 4,570 Senior Member
    @ccprofandmomof2 - we met with professors whenever possible. Some schools were very open to that, others were not. We called the department office specific for our daughter's intended major and asked if it was a possibility. At some schools where profs weren't available, we were often given their emails to correspond (and they were very responsive), and we also had some of the administrators meet with us. One of our best experiences was with an admin assistant of a chem e department who gave us tours of some the locked labs, was able to talk extensively about scheduling priorities, the history of women in their specific program, etc....
  • bearcatfanbearcatfan Registered User Posts: 1,071 Senior Member
    edited July 2018
    We did all our visits last summer, too.

    Most of the schools were a little quiet, although there were students around. We had to make arrangements ahead of time to meet nursing faculty/administrators since it was summer and they had vacations, too. One college we ended up rescheduling several times, but we got to talk to the head of the nursing school when we did go so that was worth it. We felt summer visits meant the ability to spend more leisurely time on campus, but sometimes you had to arrange things far in advance.

    At one school she was ready to leave right away, although she did apply because it was direct admit nursing. At another school, we both left with the same opinion - not for her - but again she applied, which in retrospect was a waste.

    I actually liked the summer visits, since they were easier to schedule without school and other activities. We decided if she wanted a second look at any of them, we'd do it during the school year (all were within a three hour drive). She got a second look at one, and that is the one she is attending in the fall.

    Also, take pictures of the dorm tours. We agreed that most academic buildings looked the same, but the dorms helped her differentiate the schools.
  • KnowsstuffKnowsstuff Registered User Posts: 2,428 Senior Member
    @ccprofandmomof2.. Sorry about the delay... I am not getting my notifications since new update. As stated just look up the department or professors and email them. We never had an issue at small, collegiate or ivy type schools. All were very encouraging and helpful. Calling the specific department can be helpful for guidance. Remember, all schools want students. They also want students that show interest. You are taking an extra step to talk with a professor etc. This shows interest. This is also helpful if your kid is going to be interviewed. This can be practice per se. Your kid doesn't need to do anything special like wear a suit etc. Just being themselves is key.
  • KnowsstuffKnowsstuff Registered User Posts: 2,428 Senior Member
    As far as 2fers. We did do Georgia Tech in the morning and Emory in the afternoon. Talk about drastic contrasts. My son was looking at engineering schools but everyone told us to checkout Emory since we were there. As you can imagine Georgia Tech was a more formal and intense "we are a great research and engineering elite university". Then Emory school talk was great, low key and the admissions head was down right funny. She went over what all the helicopter parents were doing to their kids (we are all so bad) but stressed to the boys to open up on their essays. She said the girls will all write and tell you everything about them but boys will rarely write anything about themselves. She said to let the boys know... It's OK to brags little.......
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