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A Student Rebelling

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  • holychildholychild 288 replies7 threads Junior Member
    I am very aware of the statistics and know that the odds do not weigh in favor of her actually having a career as a doctor. She is not interested in a plan B right now. She is only 17, I hope that once she starts college, learns more about the process, becomes exposed to different careers and does some growing up she "will see the light."
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  • KnowsstuffKnowsstuff 6922 replies30 threads Senior Member
    I have one person.. Recent graduate working as a medical assistant since her Mcat was not good enough. Great person but not doctor material. I have practiced for 31 years and 25 in residency training and a student mentor, so I have a clue. We bumped her pay up $3.00/hour more since this is a real job now for this gap year vs a part time job.
    I have another student that rotated with me. 3.95 GPA with research experience etc. I can talk medical with her all day. Very extremely bright and motivated. International student and low Mcat score. She has a brilliant mind in the way she thinks analytically.
    She is taking a gap year since she was rejected to reapply next year.
    It's not easy.
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  • thumper1thumper1 78020 replies3499 threads Senior Member
    @Knowsstuff the acceptance likelihood for international students applying to medical school is extremely LOW. And most international accepted students come from Canada.

    @WayOutWestMom how can @Knowsstuff best advise this international student who wants to attend medical school....I’m assuming here.

    @Knowsstuff does this international student want to study medicine in the United States!
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  • KnowsstuffKnowsstuff 6922 replies30 threads Senior Member
    @thumper1. Thx.... She is from India but lived in Kenya her whole life mostly. I don't know the Mcat score but didn't qualify
    Her resume was wonderful.
    She might try retaking or apply to Dentistry or Podiatry next year.
    Yes, she wants to stay in the US and got her information today that she can work and stay for now (not sure what it is called. It's in her email to me).
    I am trying to line her up to work in a medical clinic during her gap year for now. Thx BTW.
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  • Johnny523Johnny523 272 replies11 threads Junior Member
    holychild wrote: »
    Thanks for the suggestions. I will look at those colleges. She wants to be a doctor but I am not sure she can be in it for the long haul. She may be better off as a PA or NP. What would be your suggestions for reach schools?

    I'm an NP, and I'd advise anyone considering med school to give considerable thought to becoming an NP or PA instead. You can do 80% of what an MD does and you have much less debt. But keep in mind PA schools are extremely competitive to get into, and to be an NP you need to become a nurse first so you are limited in your choice of undergrad major.
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  • holychildholychild 288 replies7 threads Junior Member
    I was hoping that maybe we could get her to apply to some direct entry nursing programs with the plan of becoming a RN and then an NP. NP's practice under their own license so I thought that may be better than PA.
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  • brantlybrantly 4228 replies75 threads Senior Member
    edited August 2019
    If she really, truly wants to go to med school, she should go to Binghamton and call it a day. Very low price (comparatively). And Binghamton grads do well in med school admissions.
    edited August 2019
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  • thumper1thumper1 78020 replies3499 threads Senior Member
    edited August 2019
    @brantly


    This student is an international student who has already applied to Med school once. She doesn’t need an undergrad degree.

    Unless I’m reading @Knowsstuff post wrong...it sounds like this student had already completed undergrad or is close to doing so. She has taken the MCAT already. And she is taking a gap year because she wasn’t admitted during her first application round to Med school.

    Last year, less than 100 international students were admitted to U.S. medical schools and the very vast majority were from Canada. And that’s 100 international admissions TOTAL for all medical schools.
    edited August 2019
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  • MaineLonghornMaineLonghorn 41499 replies2253 threads Super Moderator
    I know a smart young lady whose original goal was to become a doctor. After doing a lot of researching and talking to people, she switched to becoming a physician's assistant. She is just starting a year of rotations. She is so happy! She really thinks it's the right decision for her.
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  • KnowsstuffKnowsstuff 6922 replies30 threads Senior Member
    Yes you are correct on the assumptions but don't want to HijackThis thread. Thanks to everyone that PM me to help.
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  • lvvcsflvvcsf 2412 replies58 threads Senior Member
    If I am not mistaken the prerequisites for med school and for getting into a PA program are pretty similar. Both have no major requirements but do require shadowing and exemplary grades and test scores. A 31 ACT is nothing to scoff at and given her GPA and success in HS school I wouldn't give up her goal of becoming a doctor. If she chooses the right school and works to her potential she can be a successful student. Because grades and MCAT scores are VERY important in consideration for med school she can broaden her search for schools and look for schools with a reputation for preparing students for health fields and where she would potentially be a strong student. If she realizes that she wants to change course in college she should be able to do so within a couple of years. It would largely require a change in where she shadows and volunteers. If she struggles in her prerequisite courses she may need to consider a different track. If she struggles with the MCAT there are other career options available though they will likely require another advanced degree and that she take the GRE.
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  • brantlybrantly 4228 replies75 threads Senior Member
    thumper1 wrote: »
    @brantly
    This student is an international student who has already applied to Med school once. She doesn’t need an undergrad degree.

    Unless I’m reading @Knowsstuff post wrong...it sounds like this student had already completed undergrad or is close to doing so. She has taken the MCAT already. And she is taking a gap year because she wasn’t admitted during her first application round to Med school.

    Last year, less than 100 international students were admitted to U.S. medical schools and the very vast majority were from Canada. And that’s 100 international admissions TOTAL for all medical schools.
    @thumper1 I am responding to the OP, not to the interjection.
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  • thumper1thumper1 78020 replies3499 threads Senior Member
    @brantly thanks for the clarification.
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  • holychildholychild 288 replies7 threads Junior Member
    I am hoping she will get into Binghampton as it checks all the boxes for us. We would be happy with that. We want to be realistic about her options but have her strive to get into the best school for her that we can afford. I will keep you updated as we progress on this journey.
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  • aunt beaaunt bea 10278 replies70 threads Senior Member
    @holychild, my dd's pharmacy program is at the med school-a public university. The fees for the med school are very costly and most of the students use a combination of parent funds and loans to pay for their program. (Very limited scholarships since ALL of the students are high-scoring merit students)
    My dd's roommates are med students and they pay around $250K for the program. Loans, loans and more loans, so keep your dd's undergrad costs cheap.
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  • CTCapeCTCape 297 replies9 threads Member
    @holychild great news. Sometimes time and deliberation are what's needed. Kids follow their own timeline. Lots of luck to her.
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  • yauponreduxyauponredux 815 replies27 threads Member
    @holychild thanks for your updates! Wonderful news - so happy for you and your daughter!
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  • Dancingmom518Dancingmom518 426 replies3 threads Member
    Congrats! So happy things worked out so well! That is terrific news. @holychild
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