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Having a car at college ...

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  • toomanyteenstoomanyteens Registered User Posts: 1,006 Senior Member
    No they don't -- a car is needed when they start doing heavy clinicals, and yes we could rent zipcars for her but it is like every day
  • MomOf3DDsMomOf3DDs Registered User Posts: 188 Junior Member
    @compmom While there may be a couple out there, I do not know of any nursing program that provides transportation to clinicals. Schools located in/near a city may have public transportation that can be utilized. Does a school provide your transportation to an internship? Don't worry, all nursing students are made aware before hand the logistics needed to get to their clinicals.
  • compmomcompmom Registered User Posts: 10,500 Senior Member
    There is increasing emphasis on socioeconomic diversity at many schools. If the school cannot provide transportation (and chances are that clinicals involve more than one student at each hospital or clinic) then the school could subsidize pooled Ubers. The need for a car could be a real obstacle for many. I always assumed that the suburban school near me provided transportation for nursing students.

    I think internships are different from required clinicals.
  • twoinanddonetwoinanddone Registered User Posts: 21,424 Senior Member
    Nurses and nursing students often work shifts, so are getting off at times when it is not safe to take public transportation. Some students who are jr and sr do not live on campus so is the school supposed to provide transportation to their private homes too?

    OPs daughter needs a car. I think she just needs to be firm about the car and the boyfriend.
  • blossomblossom Registered User Posts: 9,509 Senior Member
    Being firm translates to exactly what?

    There is "use the car to visit the BF every weekend and you'll lose the car" which means the kid ends up managing her transportation to and from clinicals like every other kid without a car. I.e. Didn't need a car- it's a huge convenience, but somehow other people manage.

    Twoin- we're just trying to help the OP walk through a bunch of different scenarios. Some will resonate, some won't. We don't know the school, or where the hospitals are, or how comfortable the OP's D would be asking the HR team at the hospital "I know the van service is for fulltime employees only, but since I don't have transportation, would you be able to make an exception for me?"

    We don't know.

    But to pretend that every nursing student in America has a car at college is- IMHO, not helpful. Since it's not true.

    I feel for the OP, but I've seen so many kids get derailed with the car on campus (significant others, spending Sunday nights at the airport waiting for a roommates flight to get in, the car gets lent to someone else who gets into a fender bender and then voila- no car for the Monday afternoon clinicals, etc.) So just trying to brainstorm to see if there's a solution which does not involve the D, the car, the BF.....

    Two hospitals near me have private van services which connect with commuter trains and buses (ostensibly what they're for). I know hospital staff who use the van service to and from their homes- a little out of the way from the regular route, but I'm told "not a big deal", especially if you are nice to the drivers. As long as you aren't using the van service to help you run errands or pick up family members, the hospital is fine with it. The purpose of the van service is two fold- to allow them to attract employees who don't own cars, AND to reduce the number of parking spaces the hospital needs (which became a problem with the last physical expansion). Not having to purchase or lease additional garage facilities for employees became a big costs savings when compared with the price of the vans.

    Just a suggestion to look into. May not be feasible, in which case- we're back to the car!
  • maya54maya54 Registered User Posts: 2,003 Senior Member
    "I can't believe that a car is required for clinicals. I would think schools would accommodate students who cannot afford a car. One of mine is getting a doctorate in So. CA and cannot afford a car. He gets around via bus and Uber"

    Well your beleif is wrong. At the University of Michigan (just for example) they tell you before you accept a place in the class that Nursing students will need a car. Clinicals can be up to 45 minutes away from school! Not a bus ride and an Uber would be crazy expensive!

    If you haven't had a nursing student you really don't understand how different it is than almost all other fields of study.
  • twoinanddonetwoinanddone Registered User Posts: 21,424 Senior Member
    Being firm translates to exactly what?

    There is "use the car to visit the BF every weekend and you'll lose the car"

    Yes, pretty much.

    My kids knew when I was serious and that would have been very serious. My daughter had a boyfriend when she was headed to college and they spent entirely too much time talking on the phone (3 time zone difference too). I told her that if it continued, I'd shut off her phone and she knew I meant it. Fortunately, they broke up in June before school started.
  • blossomblossom Registered User Posts: 9,509 Senior Member
    OK, so D loses the car. Then what?

    Surely the parents don't want the kid dropping out of college, since without a car how is the kid to get to clinicals, etc?

    I'm just wondering how useful the threat is "Visit BF every weekend and lose the car". Kid knows that the parents won't let her drop out of her program. So it's an empty threat if she truly needs the car, and is a threat without too much pain if she doesn't really need the car (i.e. can carpool with a classmate, supplement with the occasional cab or bus).

    I think the parents need a different strategy, because if it were me, I'd see this as a threat completely without teeth. Especially if the parents truly believe the car is a necessity.
  • twoinanddonetwoinanddone Registered User Posts: 21,424 Senior Member
    Oh, I'd take the car away and then my child would have to figure it out. Drop out, get a ride with someone else, take the bus, which is what everyone is suggesting here. I'm agreeing with OP that a car is the best way if the daughter will agree to the rules. That really wouldn't be an issue at our house because they know, 100%, I'd follow through with taking the car away (or phone, or tuition, or we agreed on) if they weren't following the rules.

    One of my daughter's did have an out of town boyfriend and she went to his house, about 3 hours away, too often (she didn't have a car, she got rides). I stopped giving her money until she got a job and stayed at the school on weekends. If she wasn't taking school seriously, I wasn't paying.

  • toomanyteenstoomanyteens Registered User Posts: 1,006 Senior Member
    edited May 15
    @blossom the school made it clear that it would be needed when heavy clinical work started - by first semester of junior year - at the time we went to the accepted student day so I am not really surprised by it. And my understanding is that this is not unusual.

    I will probably just leave it as giving her my expectation and then of course I won't finance it (any extra trips) and being as the tolls alone from her college to our area are probably a $50 expense and the gas would probably add another $40 each trip, she probably won't be able to do it much if at all - I really hope the boyfriend does actually get into the marine corp like he says he wants to (he is apparently underweight right now) or does something post graduation that keeps him more occupied too.
  • natty1988natty1988 Registered User Posts: 459 Member
    I find it odd that most nursing programs would assume all the students in the program would have a car. I also highly doubt that all their students could afford to buy a car for the program...
  • blossomblossom Registered User Posts: 9,509 Senior Member
    High performing nursing student and a BF who hasn't figured out what he wants to do with his life? At some point, surely another young man will cross her path????
  • toomanyteenstoomanyteens Registered User Posts: 1,006 Senior Member
    @blossom GOOD GOD I hope so....
  • twoinanddonetwoinanddone Registered User Posts: 21,424 Senior Member
    I took a bus to do my internship at the state capitol, but it was a pain and took extra time. It was also one city to another, so an express bus and multiple buses per day, but still took planning, time waiting for buses, a walk on both ends to get to the bus stops.

    OP, how did they do this year with the long distance relationship? Did he travel there or did she come home more than a few times? If yes, I'd not expect that change and you'll have to be firm. I'd also scheduled the trips home that you will allow - for a family event, for fall/spring break.

    And yes, hope that he joins the marines.
  • toomanyteenstoomanyteens Registered User Posts: 1,006 Senior Member
    @twoinanddone I think they were very constrained because he doesn't have the money to drive to her and she doesn't have a car or the money to drive to him - plus he was a high school student still. Of course he may have been there without me knowing, but it definitely didn't seem so as she was doing a lot of studying with her nursing student friends and such (they would facetime me and such). She came home at major breaks - so maybe 2 - 3 times a semester for a week or long weekend.
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