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My parents want me to pick UCI over UCLA and I'm conflicted about where to go

surefineitsoksurefineitsok 202 replies5 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 207 Junior Member
edited June 8 in Parents Forum
Hi everyone, I got into UCLA off the waitlist as comparative literature. It was my double/second major from my pre-med requirements. Honestly, now that I think about it, I really did literature while taking pre-med requirements since I abandoned being a straight Bio major (I didn't think declaring as Bio would do much since I didn't really work with labels at CC lmao..plus certain UC's didn't have public health even at my cc I couldn't declare it)

Anyhow, it kinda throws a wrench into the goal of med school. At my CC, I was in the Honors Program so I got priority registration which allowed me to get into any classes also it's a CC so no class restrictions. But at UCLA, it would provide a pain in the ass.. considering I'm not life sciences. As for UCI, I'm public health policy and I could switch to Public Health Sciences after the first quarter or even double major in bio sci related major (ok that maybe harder to do but it's more of a possibility at UCI than at UCLA). For Public Health they actually have reservations for certain bio classes I need so I could have the same advantage as bio sci majors

Anyhow, I just kinda wanna say whatever and go to UCLA because it's UCLA! It would break me out of my shell, let me leave my toxic home life (nothing horrible but doesn't really help me personally), and it would provide me with lots opportunities. However, I'm afraid to defy my parents. I'm afraid for them to say "I told you so" because they're convinced I'll fail out of UCLA.. they literally told me that. As for the major stuff, I've contacted some departments and they say after I finish certain requirements I could declare a double major or switch.

A friend of mine is pretty biased and is planning to go to med school says public health is basically the same thing as literature and both degrees would be useless towards med school so it wouldn't matter. I understand he wasn't trying to hurt my feelings but still he's really biased towards STEM majors and thinks without them it's no use applying to medical school which didn't really make me feel better about the whole situation. I know he means well and I get where he's coming from because if you major in straight science it shows that you can handle the upcoming workload in medical school; however, I need something to fall back on and a degree in biology/neuro/etc by itself is useless in my point of view.

Anyhow despite all of that, the major choice and difficulty of doubling again is what's turning me away from Los Angeles... on the other hand, I have a big urge to go and really pursue something I thought I'd never have a chance at. UCI is wonderful and there really isn't much cons except being close to home and probably sacrificing the experience that UCLA would give me also living with the regret of not going to UCLA. On the other hand, if i hate UCLA, I'll regret that too so I have no idea what to do. I know no strangers on the internet can make the decision for me but I just had to discuss this since I'm tired of people saying "oh you're dumb for even asking this, go to UCLA!" it's not as easy as you think.
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  • VickiSoCalVickiSoCal 3352 replies33 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 3,385 Senior Member
    How many of the premed requirements did you complete at cc?
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  • surefineitsoksurefineitsok 202 replies5 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 207 Junior Member
    @VickiSoCal I am completing the year of bio after this summer. I've already completed 2 years of chemistry (general and ochem). The only thing I didn't do was calculus and physics. I was planning to also take biochem and genetics as well as microbiology which aren't really usually required for medical school but maybe over the summer to help me with the MCAT.
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  • thumper1thumper1 73033 replies3180 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 76,213 Senior Member
    My opinion...

    If you are premed...and especially in CA...you want to go to the college where you will be able to not only take the required courses to apply to medical school...but also where you can attain the highest GPA.

    You also need a good plan B.

    That being said...UCLA is a terrific college...and you might never apply to medical school. I’m assuming the cost is not a factor?

    Re: medical school. You can major in anything...anything...as long as you also take the courses required for application to medical schools. As long as you have the time to take the courses required along with your anyonother major...it’s fine.

    You have a couple of years before you apply to medical school...and competency based is how many schools are moving.

    Plus...you need a good Plan B in case you don’t get accepted to medical school...or in case you decide not to apply.

    @WayOutWestMom what have I missed.

    My opinion...I would pick UCLA.
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  • LindagafLindagaf 8848 replies473 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 9,321 Senior Member
    Here’s the TLDR I’m reading: I don’t think I’m good enough and neither do my parents.

    UCLA wouldn’t have admitted you if they didn’t think you could handle it. I think you need to stop listening to others and do what is going to be best for your future.
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  • VickiSoCalVickiSoCal 3352 replies33 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 3,385 Senior Member
    You don't need more bio to do well on the MCAT. You just need to study the topics. And sooner you take it the better. That O Chem knowledge is not going to get stronger the further you get from it.
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  • CaMom13CaMom13 1707 replies10 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 1,717 Senior Member
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    UCLA isn't that hard and UCI isn't a lot easier - if you're committed to working at your classes you can get good grades at UCLA. Don't make a choice out of fear, choose the University you want to be associated with, the one you want to attend.
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  • coolweathercoolweather 5868 replies82 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 5,950 Senior Member
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    Only go to UCLA if you think you are strong enough to get higher grades than most of your classmates so that you can qualify for medical schools. Statistically UCLA has stronger students than UCI.
    Your parents may have a point there.

    Go to UCLA if medical school is not your concern.
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  • coolweathercoolweather 5868 replies82 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 5,950 Senior Member
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    "if you're committed to working at your classes you can get good grades at UCLA."

    All starting premeds thought that way. In the end a large part of them abandoned medical school dream after two quarters.
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  • SJ2727SJ2727 1686 replies6 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 1,692 Senior Member
    I can't see how the same student would succeed at UCI and fail out of UCLA. Not a valid argument.
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  • wis75wis75 13853 replies62 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 13,915 Senior Member
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    Physician here. Public Health is its own field, it should be done by those who want that knowledge, not as a jumping off point for medical school. There are physicians who add the MS in the field, not a BS/BA level degree, for various reasons. Forget Public Health unless that is your planned career.

    Your long post is a bit confusing. It is a great idea to have an undergrad major that interests you. There is no reason to have a science major for medical school unless that is your primary interest. The only reason to add that is because you already have so many of the needed credits that it is easy to complete along with your primary (comp lit) major. See an above post- physicians do have nonscience majors. They teach you what you need to know to become a good physician in medical school- there is no reason (outside of time and interest) to learn material ahead of time.

    You also need to look at your science gpa to date and your competitiveness for medical schools. You need to have a plan B since most who consider medical school either change their mind or are not accepted. You need to consider your priorities. WHY be a physician? Etc.

    Any school will do for medical school, if you do well on the MCAT and have high grades plus the other current criteria. You need to consider which school will give you the courses you want in your comp lit major. It is good for future physicians to indulge in a college education for its sake and take all sorts of classes unrelated to medicine- especially since there won't be time for them in medical school and many years beyond. MCAT material can be studied independent of classes.

    You give a jumble of ideas in your post. You need to move beyond your CC. Both UC Irvine and UCLA require you to make an adjustment so forget the perks you have had. You need to succeed at a four year U. Both schools are in the same area (think beyond your narrow definition), they are not even in different parts of a large state. I have visited both counties enough times to know how similar they are even if you point out differences.

    Finances matter hugely. All money that can be saved for medical school will be needed. Figure out the cost differences. Include tuition/fees/books, room and board, transportation, sundries. Saving money for the goal of being a physician trumps the cachet of UCLA over Irvine.

    Most of us do not get to go to our dream school. UCLA means something to you at your age and where you live in S CA. You saved money thus far by attending a CA CC instead of spending it on one of the four year schools. You also gave up the experiences and education of one of many excellent CA schools. You will not be getting the college freshman experience so that is not a factor.

    The reason to choose UCLA over UC Irvine is because it offers you a better education in your chosen major of comp lit. You need to look at the courses required and available in the major at both schools. You can offer this as justification for choosing UCLA, assuming there are not huge cost differences you and your family would struggle with (remember how expensive medical school is).

    Take time to organize your priorities. Perhaps medical school/becoming a physician is not the direction you should go. Look at where a comp lit degree would lead you.



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  • wis75wis75 13853 replies62 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 13,915 Senior Member
    Addenda. I absolutely did NOT want to go to my flagship coming from a suburb but it was a world apart and I loved it. Lucky to be from that state so it was an affordable (shoestring budget despite scholarships) option. You will find the college culture very different than your CC one regardless of the school.
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  • lookingforwardlookingforward 32224 replies336 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 32,560 Senior Member
    OP made the critical point that he may not get the required classes at UCLA (or not as easily. Or possibly, not the sections/teachers he prefers.) Yes, that's important.

    "says public health is basically the same thing as literature and both degrees would be useless towards med school so it wouldn't matter." Your young friend has no idea. Both are fine for med school, IF they meet your present interests and you can still meet the course requirements for med school. In fact, some say med schools like the English or lit majors for the amount of reading they require, as does med school.

    The point is to also fulfill those med school requirements. If that's a no brainer at UCI, I'd lean that way. Yes, UCLA is overall stronger. But the issue is getting weeded out of your med school dreams. Not only could you face this, but not getting the premed courses when you want them. Think about that.
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  • surefineitsoksurefineitsok 202 replies5 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 207 Junior Member
    @wis75 I definitely understand it’s not a jumping off point and it’s it’s own field. I just felt that it would serve me better learning about the workings of healthcare as well as pursing my original path. Moreover, I apologize for the long post it just there’s a lot of things going on and I feel a bit overwhelmed also tired out because I mean I picked this major not to specifically help me out at med school but to find a new interest but also have a plan B. I’ve grown up without much confidence so out of security I’ve made multiple back up plans for myself since I worry. It’s not that I’m not considering medicine is just that I need some major to feel secure.
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  • surefineitsoksurefineitsok 202 replies5 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 207 Junior Member
    I understand my friend also @wis75 are trying to be realistic and help me but definitely it’s tiring to have someone badger me how wrong I am..not saying anyone or @wis75 you’re doing this but I’m just saying I’m really exhausted lmao. I have no decisions or any power whatsoever. Nor do I have control over my own life or future
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