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Ethical College Admissions: Trust and Verify

OHMomof2OHMomof2 12750 replies236 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
There is no way that admission offices have the time or the ability to fact-check every part of every student's application. At the same time, arguing in the wake of Operation Varsity Blues that the admissions process must be an honor system will not reassure a public that wants to believe that the college admissions process is fundamentally fair and can't understand how kids from wealthy families can receive scarce admissions slots to elite colleges as water polo recruits when they've never played water polo.

https://www.insidehighered.com/admissions/views/2019/08/19/do-college-admissions-officers-verify-whats-applications-opinion
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  • Groundwork2022Groundwork2022 2109 replies31 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    I don't think anyone is asking colleges to verify every line of every application. But I don't think is it too much to ask, in order to bolster faith in the system, for there to be a few spot checks here and there on accepted applicants.
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  • ucbalumnusucbalumnus 77784 replies678 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    The Varsity Blues scandal had a lot to do with corrupt employees in the athletic departments of the universities. But a secondary check on recruited athletes should not be too difficult. Other cases with claimed high level awards or recognition can also be checked to see if such awards or recognition exist and were awarded to those claiming them.

    As the linked article notes, stuff written in essays can be much harder to verify.
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  • roycroftmomroycroftmom 2883 replies37 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    It would seem reasonable for school counselors to include in their report anything they have actual knowledge of-so they could say, yes John is often in the paper for his rowing championships or Sue won city-wide student of the Year or whatever.
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  • father05father05 218 replies45 threadsRegistered User Junior Member
    It seems to me that some up and comer in the Athletic Department could be out validating kids backgrounds, especially if the coach is going to spend a scholarship or an admission slot on a kid.
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  • lookingforwardlookingforward 33597 replies369 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    The Varsity Blues issue is they did leave vetting to a supposedly reasonable resource: the athletic depts these false recruits were meant to enhance.

    If you look at chance threads, you can see kids' assumptions. When that's off, validating isn't the magic answer.
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  • roycroftmomroycroftmom 2883 replies37 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    Many adults remained silent in the face of fraud-the elite high school counselors who knew the scores submitted were highly irregular; the athletic directors who knew the sports claims were phony. High schools aren't asked to confirm and colleges make little effort to verify, so the whole process encourages corruption. I think it is much more widespread than known.
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  • 1NJParent1NJParent 1274 replies35 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    When the system creates incentives for misrepresentations and deceptions, how can we act surprised when we discover corruptions?
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  • coolguy40coolguy40 2086 replies2 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    This is the kind of stuff that's been going on at private universities for decades. Private schools cater to the wealthy because those are the ones who donate the money. That's why admissions are so ridiculously competitive for students who actually apply based on credentials. The rich kids have the connections and get the slots before anyone else. Why do you think there's so much grade inflation? No one wants to upset donors.
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