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Athlete: On-line High School or Others?

believersmombelieversmom Registered User Posts: 1,109 Senior Member
edited January 2008 in Parents Forum
I posted this in the Home School forum but since it is not necessarily home schooling and because I have heard not a lot of people look at that section of CC, I thought I would ask here too.

Is anyone familiar with Keystone or other on-line high schools?

This will be a temporary situation (at this point just for my S's freshman year). He is an athlete that will have an inconsistent training and competition schedule that will make attending traditional school very difficult. What he really needs is a school that he can "attend" on his schedule with a lot of flexibility. There could be weeks at a time when he is training/competing and just cannot handle school as well.

Our main concern is making sure he stays on track to graduate HS on time, yet still see how far his sport can take him.

Thanks in advance!
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Replies to: Athlete: On-line High School or Others?

  • menloparkmommenloparkmom Registered User Posts: 12,917 Senior Member
    EPGY which is run through Stanford U.
  • tokenadulttokenadult Registered User Posts: 17,471 Senior Member
    See

    Stanford University EPGY Online High School

    for a description of a challenging, accredited program for young people in your child's situation.

    These days many states have online virtual high schools, some of which are public schools by law and thus free of charge to you if you live in state. But cost isn't the only issue, as you recognize, and EPGY OHS has GREAT financial aid.
  • condor30condor30 Registered User Posts: 1,083 Senior Member
    believersmom - at the duke tip website there is a listing of on-line high schools.....many are listed. among those are keystone, univ. of nebraska-lincoln, etc.

    also check with your state board of education for a listing of state accredited online high school programs.

    if your son hopes to participate collegiately and it's an ncaa sport, be sure that the courses are ncaa approved and that he'll meet eligibility with the ncaa clearinghouse. go to ncaa.org and also to the ncaa clearinghouse websites. the online schools you are considering may have a listing of which courses are ncaa approved, i believe. the sequence some math courses are taken is important so please be sure to stay on top of that as well.
  • believersmombelieversmom Registered User Posts: 1,109 Senior Member
    Condor-
    Lots of good points, thank you sooooo much! I only recently realized the whole NCAA criteria thing(local HS here NEVER mentions a thing even though I have repeatedly spoken of younger son to D's HS GC and his sports goals). The traditional HS that he eventually will transfer to (if all goes as planned) thankfully has it all dialed in, but THEY rotate everything around several sports and graduate many NCAA athletes.
    Hopefully other parents on this board will find our posts about this.

    Thanks again!
  • believersmombelieversmom Registered User Posts: 1,109 Senior Member
    Condor-
    Did you notice by chance that the new NCAA academic requirements list ACT scores of 36+ ???
    What the heck? So if a college accepts ACT and that is a better test for the student than the SAT, is the student out of luck unless they get a perfect 36? This has got to be a mistake.
  • treemaventreemaven Registered User Posts: 300 Member
    My daughter attended two separate bricks and mortar high schools for her freshman and sophmore year. For her junior year, she moved to a different state to train in an elite ballet program that did not have an academic component included. As a result, she finished high school online--and accelerated her junior and senior years to graduate a year early. Prior to choosing an online high school degree program, I did a lot of research (albeit in a very short time frame with deadlines pressing.)

    Our first choice was the Stanford University Online HS (which was new that year). She was accepted and we thought we were all set. However, when it came time to sign her up for the actual courses, we learned for the first time that the program has a 'real time' component to it. There are specific course components that require the student to participate via a webcam at specific hours of the day a couple times a week. (Perhaps it has changed since then).

    For our purposes, that was not going to work. Given the three hour time difference between the West Coast (Stanford's time) and the East Coast (where student would be), the required class participation would occur exactly when she needed to be in her ballet classes.

    The woman I worked with at Stanford tried her darndest to get it all to work for us, to the point of approving the minimun webcam participation allowed, but, in the end the rigidity built into the program simply wasn't going to work for my daughter. (For instance, she could not miss a single one of those minimum webcam hours because she would then have fallen below the minimum requirements).

    In addition to the required webcam participation, the program has a specified calendar year, finals periods, vacations, breaks, etc. Again, my daughter needed much more flexibility due to Nutcracker rehearsals and performances with the professional company taking up pretty much the entire month of December.

    So, she used the University of Miami Online High School. Initially, we felt we were compromising, but ultimately I was quite impressed with them and their hands-on connection with both her (who was living away from home) and us. She was able to do her work when she had the opportunity (typically mornings and weekends), was able to accelerate when she had the opportunity and extra time, and was able to set it all aside during the heavy Nutcracker season.

    She had an assigned college counsellor who recently helped us through the college application process---even though my daughter is no longer enrolled in UMOHS having graduated in May.

    When researching the various online programs, I would recommend that you look for several things: (1) Is it a degreed program? (2) Who issues the degree; (3) What are the teacher's credentials; (4) Are there AP and Honors courses available (if those are what you want; we did); (5) How much individual contact is there with the student, the parents, etc; (6) How easily can the student/parent contact the course instructors; (7) Is there a rigid calendar or assignment time table; (8) Does the student have flexibility in when/where to do the course or does it require webcam participation; (9) Can courses be accelerated or assignment timing adjusted as needed?

    And since you are planning to return your son to a bricks and mortar high school, you will need to make sure that the credits will transfer. So be sure to discuss the choices with your local high school.

    I also seem to recall that some online HS programs did not accept freshman students. But as mine was not a freshman, I don't really recall any specifics. So just be sure to check.
  • condor30condor30 Registered User Posts: 1,083 Senior Member
    believersmom - i googled at the ncaa site on ACT requirements and found this link to a quick reference pdf on freshman eligibility. pg. 1 mentions that ACT used by ncaa is the sum of the 4 sections: math, english, reading, science so i think that is where the confusion about the 36 might be coming from. look at pg. 2 of the pdf and you'll see the sliding scale on ACT for div. 1 and for example then with a 3.5 gpa in the 16 ncaa core courses a sum of 39 is required. i think some super scoring may be permitted but you'd best ask ncaa and/or the college ncaa compliance staff about how they do their scoring and what is their policy.

    http://www1.ncaa.org/eprise/main/Eligibility_Center/QuickReferenceSheetforIEStandards-8-28-07.pdf

    you can also do some google searching on recruiting guidelines and find what are likely preferred ACT or SAT scores for recruited athletes at both div. 1 and div. 2 level. i think at least a 24 ACT is the magic number from what I found googling.

    and ......if you are really, really enthusiastic and want to fill your brain with all sorts of new information........then add the ivy academic index (AI) to your google search :)
  • believersmombelieversmom Registered User Posts: 1,109 Senior Member
    Oh all good stuff - thank you so much!!!
    Keep it coming anyone who has more insights?
  • believersmombelieversmom Registered User Posts: 1,109 Senior Member
    Bumpity bump bump bump...
  • condor30condor30 Registered User Posts: 1,083 Senior Member
    believersmom - you might try starting a new thread with a different title..........something mentioning athlete and online education options ??
  • tokenadulttokenadult Registered User Posts: 17,471 Senior Member
    I can change the thread title.
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