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Is a strong Biology background a pre-requisite for O Chem/O Chem II?


Replies to: Is a strong Biology background a pre-requisite for O Chem/O Chem II?

  • LanaHereLanaHere Registered User Posts: 638 Member
    Thank You @baktrax
  • mom2collegekidsmom2collegekids Forum Champion Financial Aid, Forum Champion Alabama Posts: 84,432 Forum Champion
    """She didn't take the College Board's AP exam. We were told that medical schools do not want you to use AP credits for premed classes. """

    Oh good heavens. I wish that people who gave such stupid advice understood what med schools want and don't want.
  • LanaHereLanaHere Registered User Posts: 638 Member

    For non-premeds, do you really need Biology (Genes, Evolution & Ecology) to understand Cells & Proteins?

    My D is doing BME and to meet her Natural Science requirements, she must take a Biology class (any class from 100 level to 400 level). Since BME courses have a lot of biology and medical applications, is it wise just to skip Genes and Evolution & Ecology, and go straight to Cells & Proteins?

    One less class to take.

  • LanaHereLanaHere Registered User Posts: 638 Member
    edited September 2015
    By the way, she has decided to drop pre-med for now and concentrate on BME.
  • i_wanna_be_Browni_wanna_be_Brown Forum Champion Brown Posts: 8,247 Forum Champion
    Without knowing the actual content of these classes no one can give you a real answer. Certainly genes and evolution are important for cells and proteins if we're just talking in generalities...
  • NixonDenierNixonDenier Registered User Posts: 184 Junior Member
    Most courses in Organic Chemistry II will spend a little time talking about the chemistry of structure and bonding for the macromolecules (fats, proteins, carbohydrates, nucleic acids) at the end of the class (some classes skip the topic all together since there are more important concepts to cover that take up most of the time). But honestly, the amount of background information you'll need is probably referenced in the opening paragraphs of the chapter or can be found on Wikipedia in five minutes. I have yet to see a school require biology to complete an organic chemistry course.
  • NixonDenierNixonDenier Registered User Posts: 184 Junior Member
    Regarding @LanaHere question. Schools are typically very good at listing and enforcing prerequisites to protect students. If there's no prereq then I would say it really comes down to your daughter's familiarity with the content. Has she taken a biology course in high school? That would cover most, if not all, of the concepts being covered and beyond that, the specifics can always be reviewed/learned. If your D is a go-getter then there is no reason why any gaps she encounters during the class can't be filled in with information she finds online, in her textbook and from classmates. Introductory biology content really has not changed in the last 20 years - everything covered in a typical intro bio course has study materials and concept review littered across the internet.
  • Walker1194Walker1194 Registered User Posts: 1,005 Senior Member
    My daughter took AP bio (5) but took it in 9th grade, so she ended up retaking in college. She is happy she did.

    I can't say for certain but I would assume it won't be a huge red flag to take one prereq class at a CC as long as you ace it and have a valid reason for taking it there vs a 4 yr institution (financial, distance, scheduling issues at your regular school, etc). I would think getting a B or a C in a CC class and all A's at your regular school could raise questions however.
  • LanaHereLanaHere Registered User Posts: 638 Member
    edited September 2015
    The Biomedical Physiology-Biophysics course she's taking now covers the Physiology of cells, proteins, basically the Physiology of things inside the human system, and whatever it doesn't cover, they'll cover it in the next course, Biomedical Physiology-Biophysics 202. She will take that in the spring.

    So does it sound like she can skip the 1st Biology course Genes, Evolution and Ecology and go straight to Cells and Proteins?

  • plumazulplumazul Registered User Posts: 1,744 Senior Member
    You must check the required prerequisites for any course you take. Some depts. are very strict about this others not so much. But if you sign up for a course and you and don't have the prerequisites, you may be forced to withdraw.
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