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If we both got the same impression about the school, don't you think there's perhaps an ounce of truth to it?
I am suggesting that Internet forums are more useful to high school students when current and alumni provide specific answers to prospective students.
But by this logic you should direct your comments at iCalculus and Baelor, too. The only difference between their comments and mine is that theirs have been generally positive about Princeton and mine have been generally negative.
You seem to like Princeton because it's a school comprised of mainly rich white kids with little diversity, and it's a school that makes you sound smug, arrogant, and supercilious when you tell people you're going there. I hope you have fun there; what with their "eating clubs" and all. How fancy.
But the general atmosphere of the school seems pretty WASPY and uninclusive, if not downright snobby. (Funny-- this is the way it's been depicted in a lot of modern literature, too: The Sun Also Rises, for example)
Minder, since you continue to defend your first impressions can you share with us and provide links to substantiate “Pton is more WASPy and elitist than any other Ivy, or Stanford”.
I attempt to provide verifiable facts about Princeton. The class of 2009 is from 49 states and 37 countries. Students of color represent 35.2% of the class. 20% of students neither parent went to college. 7% of students are the first in their family to attend college. I have never seen a religious breakdown of Princeton students; however there are 17 campus ministries 11 student religious organizations.
Omega Sanction wrote:
A preliminary look at the 8 Ivy League schools as well as Stanford puts Princeton at tied for #1 in highest percentage of Whites. It's tied w/ Brown at 49%, slightly ahead of Dartmouth at 48%, Cornell at 44%, Harvard at 40%, and the rest of them in the 30s.
Omega, I'm not sure what source you have for that but those numbers aren't even close. Here are the numbers from the Common Data Set forms for the Ivies and Stanford. I believe these reflect this year's freshman class but it doesn't change much even if you averaged all four classes.
By this superficial measure, Princeton does have a claim to at least being the most White Ivy (+ Stanford)... Princeton does appear to be fairly diverse (and certainly more so than it was historically), but it seems like arguing that Princeton is more diverse than its peers is a bad route.
I reject the idea of race as a proxy for diversity.
If you want to talk about diversity, talk about race AND socioeconomic status AND political ideology AND religion AND sexual orientation etc.
If you include all of those factors, then you get a more complete picture. So your statement is totally vacuous because your own closed-mindedness has limited your definition of diversity.
You want to talk about diversity, explain Stanford's Californian population (or the EC pops. of the Ivies, etc.).