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RPI Class of 2023 Thread

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Replies to: RPI Class of 2023 Thread

  • spqr70njspqr70nj Registered User Posts: 383 Member
    Yeah just checked again and his Decision Notification date is populated on the status page.
  • gymnast9261gymnast9261 Registered User Posts: 17 Junior Member
    I have March 9th too. Is the release time 7 pm?
  • spqr70njspqr70nj Registered User Posts: 383 Member
    @gymnast9261 According to the RPI twitter post decisions will be made March 9th at 7pm. Good luck!
  • collegemom777collegemom777 Registered User Posts: 58 Junior Member
    For those who asked about aid, I think it's always a crapshoot but I wouldn't count on RPI being great. Out of 25ish college acceptances that my kids have received, RPI gave us by far the worst aid. Cost to go there was more than 10,000 more than anywhere else, including schools with comparable sticker prices. That said, it all depends on the school's formula. I guess it's possible something in RPI's formula just worked against my family's financial situation, but might work well for yours.
  • reformedmanreformedman Registered User Posts: 444 Member
    @collegemom777 I agree with you it's hard to tell what you'll get. Of the 15 schools my kids have applied to including public in state universities RPI was the cheapest. My second kid was accepted early decision and is covered more than tuition and fees and partially room&board so when he moves out of his room&board he will be full paid. It may have something to do with siblings attending together but even my first kid got just room&board plus a little more.

    I think it's more to do with demonstrating desire to attend and academic to Major eligibility. RPI will always generate a willing 20,000 student waitlist, most willing to wait. So getting high payers is in their favor to easily get. But demonstrating desire to attend is where the gold is for them. They have funds set exclusively for aid so giving it to just anyone applying gets them no wins in the deal. But giving it to the ones they want to secure really ensures a win for both parties. That method increases retention rate which is a goal for all colleges for many reasons. There are plenty of rich families that are academically capable of attending and then drop or transfer out. I know first hand of one family that had a genius kid attend two years ago and paid almost full price but dropped out after the first semester to become a Twitch gamer. It's my opinion that the key to high aid is not only demonstrated need but also fervent desire.
  • spqr70njspqr70nj Registered User Posts: 383 Member
    RPI can’t be as cheap as Penn State, Rutgers, and Maryland - they didn’t even offer one cent for my accepted Engineering student with a 4.01 GPA.
  • randomdude532randomdude532 Registered User Posts: 35 Junior Member
    "RPI will always generate a 20,000 student waitlist, most willing to wait", like what? RPI for the first time last year had 20,000 students even apply, with half of those kids applying to RPI as a backup school. @reformedman this isn't MIT.
  • Spark2018Spark2018 Registered User Posts: 69 Junior Member
    edited March 5
    No question RPI is an expensive school, but on par with other similar NE tech / engineering schools. 3 years from now I will have a better idea if financially it was a good decision. My son is a freshman in engineering and loves it. As far as assistance, with two kids and over 20 schools applied to merit etc.varies. Cappex calculator on target 80% of the time with both upside and downside surprises. It was dead on for RPI, at least for us. In NYS the SUNY schools are by far best value. Oh .... and they give merit $s too. With both in private institutions I will say that you get a lot for your money and rarely have to buck up for things you would expect are included. SUNYs tend to have additional fees and cost. ps ... this school is serious business academically. those who maybe breezed through HS best be ready to do the work. Virtually everyone who goes was an A student, honor society, APs, and high SATs. For balance I will say the winters are tough, and the male/female ratio has not been addressed. Also, I'm not so sure if the Arch is a good or bad thing. Jury is out on that.
  • collegemom777collegemom777 Registered User Posts: 58 Junior Member
    I think we are mixing up two kinds of aid together. Need-based aid is almost always based totally on family finances. Some schools may weigh certain parts of that (home equity, retirement funds, retirement contributions, other investments) more than others, but generally schools do not include student qualifications, including GPA and interest, in those calculations.

    Merit aid tends to be more subjective. It's entirely possible that schools, including RPI, use that as a carrot for students they find particularly desirable, whether because of academic qualifications, special talents, perceived likelihood of attending, etc.

    There are also schools who will simply reject or waitlist students if they don't demonstrate a lot of interest, regardless of how impressive their grades might be, in favor of accepting students who make it very clear they want to come. Yield protection.
  • Spark2018Spark2018 Registered User Posts: 69 Junior Member
    edited March 5
    Agree. I was not clear. I was referring in my case to merit based. Needs was/is limited to the basic stafford loans. With that said I stand by using Cappex forecast as it uses income in its logic.
  • reformedmanreformedman Registered User Posts: 444 Member
    edited March 6
    @spqr70nj Rutgers was full pay, no aid at all for us. Pennstate was about $2k in aid. Like I said, RPI was near full tuition covered and we only had to pay room/board plus a bit more for our first kid. And for our second kid full tuition is covered as well as half the room/board. I'm delighted they care both in RPI with a great cost of attendance. We live in NJ and made it clear that it was our first choice school with all the visits, emails and calls as well as his essays.

    @randomdude532 correction, I meant 20,000 applicants. Really only about 2-3k go on the wait list which is in itself quite substantial when you think only about 10 or 20 will get off the waitlist. Point still remains that they have more people to draw from the waitlist which works perfectly for them so they're not worried.
  • BagODonutsBagODonuts Registered User Posts: 57 Junior Member
    How ever did the admission process get so perverter? Think about purchasing something and never knowing if they will sell it to you or how much it will cost. Think about the student who applies early decision, gets deferred to regular decision, and gets waitlisted how much stress that causes over 5 or 6 months. Think about being fully qualified for your dream school and not getting accepted and never knowing why? It seems like schools try to maximize prestige and profits at the expense of student applicants.
  • Spark2018Spark2018 Registered User Posts: 69 Junior Member
    Great point BagODonets, This has all become an obscene business from testing to application to acceptance to books etc. The current issue as you describe I believe is driven by the ease of the common app (and my kids applied to 10+ per). I think I read in the UK you are limited to applying to 5 schools. Basic economics as that number goes up, more customers chasing limited supply. That one change would start to get things back on track. Next up would be the student loan system. Like an increasing money supply, loan availability drive educations inflation. I won't bore you all with the rest. I'm sure these are not unfamiliar ideas to you. With that said, as I posted before, we are very happy with our choices to date. Hopefully that remains true 5, 10, 20 years from now.
  • collegemom777collegemom777 Registered User Posts: 58 Junior Member
    Yes, the system is a mess. I have 2 in college, and they are happy and doing well. They made good choices, but neither is at their "dream school" despite both getting in, because of financial aid. The process was incredibly stressful, and we learned all sorts of things we didn't know. Many schools waitlist more kids than they admit, and some years no one makes it off the waitlist (because they always overenroll anyway). So being on a waitlist is really false hope most of the time. Some schools are highly unlikely to admit you if you haven't visited. The way HSs weight and convert their grades can make a big difference for their students. And some HS students claim to have done more in the last 4 years than most people have done in a lifetime. I have also realized that if you are upper middle class - somewhere just beyond the range where financial aid is offered, your best choice is to send your child to a state school. If you are middle to lower-middle class, you are likely to get a better deal from a "meets 100% need" private school than from a state school. Which is the opposite of what I would have thought (and doesn't really seem fair, either). In the home stretch now for S19, with the last few decisions coming in the next few weeks. I will be happy to be finished with it.
  • joedoejoedoe Registered User Posts: 268 Junior Member
    edited March 7
    Current graduating RPI student here. RPI is pretty fair with its scholarships and aid programs. I’ve gotten the same merit and need-based aid from RPI every year. The only thing that will vary (at any school) is state and federal aid since that’s out of the school’s control.

    RPI does not count co-op earnings either towards aid or scholarships, nor do they count your first home. All large merit (Rensselaer Medalist or Leadership Award) or large-need based (Rensselaer Grant) awards are renewable every year. The GPA requirement to maintain the awards is a 2.0 (they’ll put you on probation for a semester if you dip below that, but you retain the award). They will only reduce your NEED-BASED (not merit - that never changes) award if there is a significant increase in income (10-20% change) in which case you will be notified and you can appeal. It’s also not 1:1, they’ll just cut a little off. They may also increase your need based award if you have a significant drop in income.

    You don’t need to pay the school back for any scholarships, grants, or awards. They’re free money. RPI also usually gives a lot, so that $71k price tag will likely be a lot lower if you’re from the US or Canada (only countries RPI gives awards to). I only paid like $15k a year for everything, which is not bad. My parents also make below six figures so I’m relatively middle class compared to most of the school. I’d make $7k a year from working and use loans and parent help to pay the rest. Most students also do a co-op which will give you enough money to pay an entire academic year off in cash if you get a good deal, especially if you’re in a high-paying group like CS, IT, or engineering.
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