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Must You Submit All SAT, ACT, or SAT Subject Test Scores

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  • drusbadrusba 9675 replies21 threads Senior Member
    rgriff117: To send those Oct scores, you needed to order them sent and pay again. College Board will send all sores it aready has for you when you place a send order but it does not send future scores based on that order.

    Sportsman88, I am not sure what you are asking but perhaps this answers it: whenever your order any test scores sent by College Board it will always send all SAT and SAT subject test scores it has on file for you unless you specifically exercise score choice and choose to withhold one or more of those tests. For whichever test or tests you choose to withhold, College Board sends nothing to a college that even indicates you ever registered for the test. Nevertheless, you still need to check what your high school does because many include all your test scores on the official high school transcript sent to colleges; whether you can get scores removed from the transcript is a matter between you and the high school. On a different note, for colleges that consider subject tests, sending scores above 700 is usually helpful not harmful.
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  • Boss anBoss an 33 replies3 threads Junior Member
    Follow up question on SAT Subject Test scores....

    DD took the Physics test after her freshman year. Figured take it right after the course (Honors) rather than waiting until AP Physics is offered as a Senior (2 issues there - not sure if she'll even take AP Physics as a Sr at this point in time and if she did, she'd only have a month or two under her belt by the time she'd have to take the test).

    So she took it at the end of her Freshman year. Got a 630. Not so hot (33rd percentile). Makes sense though if most of the others taking the test have had AP.

    So if we apply to a college that requires all scores....will seeing a 630 from early in her high school career be harmful?



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  • drusbadrusba 9675 replies21 threads Senior Member
    ^Only Georgetown, Cornell, Carnegie Mellon, and probably Harvey Mudd, require one to provide all subject test scores that you have. If not applying to any of those four colleges, you have no issue and can withhold the Physics subject test score even if you submit other subject test scores. That comes with a caveat that it does not appear from your post that your DD is currently a senior and colleges could change their rules after this year, although I seriously doubt any college is going to now adopt a new rule to require all subject test scores.

    As to the four, all have previously stated that they use the highest two (three for Georgetown) subject test scores submitted if you submit more than two.
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  • Boss anBoss an 33 replies3 threads Junior Member
    Thank you. That helps. She is only a sophomore, so lots more testing to go.
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  • drusbadrusba 9675 replies21 threads Senior Member
    UPDATE:

    This updates the original post in this thread. There are now indications that the UCs no longer have an all scores rule of any kind. The website still shows such a rule for SAT's but admission officals have been telling applicants that they can send whatever tests they want to send, see the discussion of the issue on this site here: http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-admissions/1935358-sat-act-scores.html#latest

    As to Florida State's possibe rule, I have contacted it three time to confirm whether it actually requires all SAT scores and each time I have been informed it would get back to me but it has yet to do so. The last such request was about two weeks ago.
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  • drusbadrusba 9675 replies21 threads Senior Member
    UPDATE:

    Harvey Mudd has now updated its Required Application Materials webpage to state that it requires all scores, see https://www.hmc.edu/admission/apply/first-year-students/application-materials/.
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  • superbowser12superbowser12 154 replies18 threads Junior Member
    Do you have to pay for every test you're required to send?
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  • AngelaDAngelaD 84 replies1 threads Junior Member
    For ACT, you pay for every test you send.. i.e., if you took ACT twice and send both tests then you pay for both tests. ($12x2=$24 total)
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  • ClaremontMomClaremontMom 2365 replies41 threads Senior Member
    Re: payment to send scores

    IIRC- for ACT you pay per sitting per college. (So in Angela's example you'd still have to multiply by the number of colleges). For SAT you pay per college (regardless of the number of times you took the tests).
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  • LakeCloudsLakeClouds 530 replies54 threads Member
    Can schools tell if you sent them all scores? Obviously if you take both the SAT and ACT there's no way they can tell but if it's multiple SATs it's not clear they can tell whether you sent all scores or selected scores.

    I'm assuming they want all scores so they can ding you if one of your scores is lower than your best score.
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  • skieuropeskieurope 40797 replies7594 threads Super Moderator
    edited January 2017
    I'm assuming they want all scores so they can ding you if one of your scores is lower than your best score.
    You assume incorrectly. No college is going to "ding" you for a lower score; if anything, they will expect that scores improve over time. As to why some colleges request all scores, I believe that Jeff Brenzel, the former Dean of Admissions at Yale, expressed it best.
    “We believe that our policy maintains a more level playing field for low-income students who cannot afford repeated testing or the expensive test preparation that often accompanies it,” Brenzel wrote. “We also hope that this policy will help to discourage excessive testing and help to simplify testing issues for all of our applicants.”
    http://yaledailynews.com/blog/2009/01/15/yale-to-require-all-sat-scores/
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  • LakeCloudsLakeClouds 530 replies54 threads Member
    We believe that our policy maintains a more level playing field for low-income students who cannot afford repeated testing or the expensive test preparation that often accompanies it

    This is saying they will ding you for multiple test scores to "level the playing field." He's being vague about the exact mechanism they will use. Obvious choice includes averaging the results, throwing out the highest score, choosing a median value, etc.

    Does anyone know how College Board indicates to school's whether they are sending all scores or just selected scores? Is this indicated on the report CB sends them?
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  • drusbadrusba 9675 replies21 threads Senior Member
    edited January 2017
    ^As I mentioned at the beginning of this thread, neither CB nor ACT provides a college with anything to even indicate you took a test that is withheld. However, your high school, which gets all your test scores, may put all your scores on your high school transcript so you need to check what your high school does.
    edited January 2017
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  • mohammadmohd18mohammadmohd18 475 replies26 threads Member
    edited January 2017
    If the ACT charges money for each test, as well as each college, does CB have the same pricing? Or do they only charge you per SAT test you send? Or they send all your scores to each college, and charge you for each college?
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  • drusbadrusba 9675 replies21 threads Senior Member
    edited January 2017
    ^ACT requires you to send each test in a separate order to a college and thus you have to pay multiple fees to send multiple tests to one college. College Board will always send all tests it has for you to a college, both SAT and subject tests, in a single order and thus for a single fee per college, but you can prevent one or more tests from being sent by exercising score choice (online when ordering you uncheck the one(s) you don't want sent).
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  • AmyForeverAmyForever 30 replies0 threads Junior Member
    The All Scores rule is quite controversial there is no centralized mechanism leading to confusion and diverging from to there...I recently given my SAT test its :(
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  • e4e6d4d5e4e6d4d5 90 replies13 threads Junior Member
    Do you have to send state testing ACT scores for all choice schools? Also does deleting scores work for all score schools?
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  • drusbadrusba 9675 replies21 threads Senior Member
    edited March 2017
    ^Those that require all ACT scores include both state and national testing . None have stated any rule that prohibits you from deleting a test. However, be aware that deleting a test through ACT, which can be done after getting scores for a national test but not a state mandated test, takes a little time, meaning, for example, you cannot choose a week before the date that scores are due with a college to delete a test because it takes more than a week to do it. Also, deleting through ACT may not succeed in hiding a test score because your high school may still have it on the official high school transcript sent to colleges.
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  • wisteria100wisteria100 4354 replies48 threads Senior Member
    Villanova requires all scores to be sent.
    This is their policy

    Candidates are asked to submit their scores from each sitting of the SAT or ACT. The Admission Committee will review the highest critical reading/evidence-based reading and writing and highest math scores from the SAT and/or the highest ACT composite from different subscores and dates for admission, also known as "superscoring."
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  • drusbadrusba 9675 replies21 threads Senior Member
    edited March 2017
    ^You need to distinguish between "ask" and "require." Villanova's stating that candiates are "asked" to send all scores because it superscores does not mean it requires all scores and it has no penalty for failure to provide all scores.
    edited March 2017
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