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Should I use 1430 SAT or 31 ACT?

claire1111claire1111 Registered User Posts: 5 New Member
So, I am applying to several colleges right now (NYU, George Washington, Georgetown, Brown, John Hopkins) and was wondering if I should submit my ACT score of 31 or my SAT score of 1430. Also, I know some colleges (Georgetown) require you to send in "all scores." Does that mean I have to send in all SAT and ACT or just all of one or the other?
Thanks for any help :)

Replies to: Should I use 1430 SAT or 31 ACT?

  • JBStillFlyingJBStillFlying Registered User Posts: 5,526 Senior Member
    For GTown you need to send in all ACT's and all SAT's and all subject tests taken.

    A 1430 concords to an ACT score of 32. You will want to check your subscores, however, not just the composite. See the current concordance tables in the link below:

    https://www.act.org/content/dam/act/unsecured/documents/ACT-SAT-Concordance-Information.pdf
  • evergreen5evergreen5 Registered User Posts: 1,204 Senior Member
    1430 concords to a 32 with the most up-to-date table.
    https://www.act.org/content/dam/act/unsecured/documents/ACT-SAT-Concordance-Tables.pdf

    Compare your SAT section scores to the ranges posted by your colleges on their websites.
    Georgetown requires that you submit scores from all test sittings of the SAT, ACT, and SAT Subject Tests.
  • claire1111claire1111 Registered User Posts: 5 New Member
    Thanks! My section scores are 720 Reading and 710 Math for the SAT and 35 English, 32 Reading, 28 Math, and 27 Science. If I superscore my ACT with 35 English, 33 Reading, 30 Math, and 28 Science then it is a 32 overall.
  • JBStillFlyingJBStillFlying Registered User Posts: 5,526 Senior Member
    That EBRW score is about a 33 avg. reading and English which is what you have (or just a bit under with the superscore). The ACT science is low and the ACT Math is lower than the SAT, as the latter concords to about a 31. The SAT is a better test for you as it concords to 30+ on all sections, especially if that's your one SAT. How many times did you take each test?
  • claire1111claire1111 Registered User Posts: 5 New Member
    I have taken the ACT a bunch of times (like 6 or 7 I think), but I have only taken the SAT twice and everything was better on the second one. Thanks for helping the chart was great.
  • lookingforwardlookingforward Registered User Posts: 30,654 Senior Member
    I think you need to go back and make sure you understand what the top colleges "look for." And what they say and show. Eg, Brown's admit mid 50% range is 1450-1570, putting your scores in the bottom 25%. In general, you want to be at least near the top of the midrange, near the 75th percentile.

    You also need to tell the major. If it's stem, the M and S ACT subscores are not in range. It's not composite, but subs. For SAT, 730+ each. This isn't about the concordance but the reality of the competition and expectations.

    Likewise, for JHU, the mid 50% is 1480-1550, ACT 33-35. These Brown and JHU figures are right on their websites. You can check the other colleges.

    How did you choose these targets? And 6 tries on the ACT is a lot.
  • JBStillFlyingJBStillFlying Registered User Posts: 5,526 Senior Member
    edited December 2018
    OP, most schools that require "all scores" will allow you to choose which test. Other schools only require your superscore. You are better off sticking to the SAT under both circumstances. GTown will require everything so you have to assume that they will look at everything.
  • claire1111claire1111 Registered User Posts: 5 New Member
    edited December 2018
    I know I have some definite reaches on my application. That's why included some that I will probably get into and a definite safety school that I know I can get into. Also, an applicant is not solely considered by their test scores and I was not asking for anyone to tell me if I could get in or not lookingforward.

    Addressing the issue of the ACTs, my school provided two and every one at my high school seemed to take them ever chance they got to try and improve scores, so I did too. I probably shouldn't have, but I have already made the mistake.
  • lookingforwardlookingforward Registered User Posts: 30,654 Senior Member
    The stats and rigor expectations are, nonetheless, a bar. What the colleges report gives an indication. In holistic, it ALL matters, no one section of an app package can trump all others.

    My point is to know your targets.
  • mmk2015mmk2015 Registered User Posts: 597 Member
    OP, call the college directly to confirm its test requirements.

    Why risk exposing parts of your testing history just because someone here said so? No one here works for Georgetown.
  • Mwfan1921Mwfan1921 Registered User Posts: 721 Member
    Georgetown's testing requirements (https://uadmissions.georgetown.edu/firstyear/preparation):

    TEST REQUIREMENTS
    We recommend sitting for the SAT or ACT in the spring of junior year and fall of the senior year. We do not find that taking these tests more than two times or using a test preparation company to be useful in increasing the likelihood of admission.
    Georgetown maintains a holistic review process with a focus on success in your high school curriculum as the foundation of a competitive application. Please plan on taking either the SAT or ACT and three SAT Subject Tests for submission with your application.

    Georgetown University does not participate in the Score Choice option available through the College Board. Georgetown requires that you submit scores from all test sittings of the SAT, ACT, and SAT Subject Tests. Georgetown evaluates thousands of competitive applicants each year for admission; access to your full testing profile enables the admissions committee to fully and fairly assess your individual strengths in comparison to the entire applicant pool.

    SAT - Georgetown's SAT code is 5244. Georgetown only considers the critical reading and math portions of the SAT, not the writing section. If an applicant takes the SAT more than once, the admissions committees will consider the highest critical reading score and the highest math score from multiple test sessions when reviewing the application.
    ACT - Georgetown's ACT code is 0668. Georgetown accepts the ACT in lieu of the SAT. Applicants who take the ACT more than once will have their highest composite score considered in the evaluation process. The optional writing section on the ACT is not required, nor is the writing subscore used in the application review process.
    SAT Subject Tests - It is strongly recommended that all candidates, whether they have taken the SAT Reasoning Test or the ACT, submit three SAT Subject Tests scores. The scores from writing portion on the SAT Reasoning Test and the optional writing portion of the ACT will not be used in place of a Subject Test.
    *Notice to Early Action Applicants:
    Given the Early Action deadline of November 1, the Committee on Admissions recognizes that applicants may not be able to meet the SAT Subject Test requirements. Those candidates are welcome to submit an Early Action application, and the application will be considered complete and reviewed in its entirety. Candidates applying under the Early Action plan who have not yet taken three Subject Tests should still register to take the tests in the event they are deferred from Early Action to Regular Decision. If there are extenuating circumstances which prevent an applicant from submitting three SAT Subject Test scores, the applicant should provide a written explanation to the Committee on Admissions to be included with the application.
  • lookingforwardlookingforward Registered User Posts: 30,654 Senior Member
    See? ^ You don't need to "work for Georgetown" to find what they say and ask for. You do need to be the sort who will look at a college's web pages. Not pronounce. Not go on gut or how things work in your one high school.

    And not call a college to ask what they have already said.
  • JBStillFlyingJBStillFlying Registered User Posts: 5,526 Senior Member
    ^ Kimurafuju, what part of:

    "Georgetown requires that you submit scores from all test sittings of the SAT, ACT, and SAT Subject Tests. Georgetown evaluates thousands of competitive applicants each year for admission; access to your full testing profile enables the admissions committee to fully and fairly assess your individual strengths in comparison to the entire applicant pool."

    do you not understand? Calling them for "confirmation" will probably look bad to the adcom LOL.

    No way to get around this one. Also, why did you repeat post #10? Are you also mmk2015?
  • evergreen5evergreen5 Registered User Posts: 1,204 Senior Member
    edited January 9
    @kimurafuju You are correct that Georgetown is the ultimate authority on its admission requirements. Applicants should definitely go to Georgetown's website and read the requirements for themselves, as they should for each of the colleges on their list. Only after they have read with their own eyes the Georgetown website statement, "Georgetown requires that you submit scores from all test sittings," should they call the admission office and ask for clarification of whatever part they don't understand.
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