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ACT chief warns UC that killing the admissions test would harm students

Dave_BerryDave_Berry 492 replies2724 threadsCC Admissions Expert Senior Member
"Ending the standardized test requirement for admissions at the University of California would deprive students of an objective measure of their skills, among other negative consequences, the head of the ACT test warned UC regents this week.

'Many underserved students benefit greatly from standardized testing as a counterweight for less-than-stellar grades,' ACT chief executive Marten Roorda told the regents in a three-page letter sent Tuesday to the regents that sets out his argument for why the vast university of nine undergraduate campuses should continue using the test it’s relied on for decades.

Yet Roorda’s letter was met with skepticism from two of the regents, as UC considers whether to keep the testing requirement or join more than 1,000 universities around the country that have made the standardized tests ACT and SAT optional in admissions decisions — or end their use altogether." ...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/act-chief-warns-uc-that-killing-the-admissions-test-would-harm-students/ar-BBYLsiv
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  • ucbalumnusucbalumnus 79697 replies712 threads Senior Member
    Dave_Berry wrote: »
    "'Many underserved students benefit greatly from standardized testing as a counterweight for less-than-stellar grades,' ACT chief executive Marten Roorda told the regents" ...

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/act-chief-warns-uc-that-killing-the-admissions-test-would-harm-students/ar-BBYLsiv

    Perhaps his definition of "underserved" is high SES, since discrepent applicants with higher test scores than expected for their HS GPA tend to be high SES, while discrepent applicants with higher HS GPA than expected for their test scores tend to be low SES.
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  • RichInPittRichInPitt 1612 replies25 threads Senior Member
    ucbalumnus wrote: »
    discrepent applicants with higher test scores than expected for their HS GPA tend to be high SES, while discrepent applicants with higher HS GPA than expected for their test scores tend to be low SES.

    Can you provide a link to this research - I haven’t seen it.

    The head of ACT obviously has a vested interest in the outcome. The input should be considered, but the source needs to be factored in.
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  • Mwfan1921Mwfan1921 2956 replies49 threads Senior Member
    RichInPitt wrote: »
    ucbalumnus wrote: »
    discrepent applicants with higher test scores than expected for their HS GPA tend to be high SES, while discrepent applicants with higher HS GPA than expected for their test scores tend to be low SES.

    Can you provide a link to this research - I haven’t seen it.

    The head of ACT obviously has a vested interest in the outcome. The input should be considered, but the source needs to be factored in.

    The discrepant issue is discussed in Paul Tough's recent book. I would expect he cited the research, but you would have to take a look.
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  • bluebayoubluebayou 27013 replies175 threads Senior Member
    edited January 9
    Perhaps his definition of "underserved" is high SES, since discrepent applicants with higher test scores than expected for their HS GPA tend to be high SES, while discrepent applicants with higher HS GPA than expected for their test scores tend to be low SES.

    Well sure, but then those that aren't 'tending' in the correct manner, i.e., smart but screwed up grades, will be missed.

    Regardless, I have no doubt that UC will be going test optional in the near future; that writing has been on the wall for awhile. It's much easier than fixing K12.
    edited January 9
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  • ucbalumnusucbalumnus 79697 replies712 threads Senior Member
    RichInPitt wrote: »
    ucbalumnus wrote: »
    discrepent applicants with higher test scores than expected for their HS GPA tend to be high SES, while discrepent applicants with higher HS GPA than expected for their test scores tend to be low SES.

    Can you provide a link to this research - I haven’t seen it.

    College Board research on the topic (for SAT / HS GPA discrepent students):
    https://eric.ed.gov/?id=ED562878
    https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED562878.pdf
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  • hebegebehebegebe 2724 replies38 threads Senior Member
    Perhaps his definition of "underserved" is high SES, since discrepent applicants with higher test scores than expected for their HS GPA tend to be high SES, while discrepent applicants with higher HS GPA than expected for their test scores tend to be low SES.
    Does this study adjust for the fact that high SES communities tend to have both stronger students and more demanding school systems?
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