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My daughter's AP and SAT II scores have changed during the summer!

swimdadswimdad 7 replies1 threads New Member
During my daughter's sophomore year (May 2019), she took the AP exam in US History. She received a 5 and took a screenshot of her score in July 2019. In October 2019, we logged into College Board, and her score had changed to a 3. We called College Board and even paid for a re-score. They insisted that they were correct, and her score remained a 3. She also took 2 SAT Subject tests in May 2019 in Calculus and US History. Those scores also changed (from a 780 to a 710 in Calculus and from a 760 to a 570 in US History).

Due to this problem, she had to re-take the AP exam in US History again this past May 2020. This past May 2020, my daughter took 6 AP exams – Chemistry, Biology, Calculus, Spanish, Language, and US History. On July 15th, we downloaded her score result PDF and took a screenshot of her score page. She received 5’s on all of her exams. Over the summer, she has been looking at the College Board website weekly checking her scores. They remained the same until the end of August. On August 24, 2020 she looked at College Board again, and the scores had changed from all 5’s to scores ranging from 1-4. We were shocked that this had happened again. We are trying to appeal to College Board, but they, of course, are insisting that they are correct.

Anybody have any suggestions? Her mother and I are frantic since college apps are coming up!
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  • swimdadswimdad 7 replies1 threads New Member
    Just some more info, the College Board rep that I talked to over the phone regarding our appeal insists that there's no problem... in his words "There's no evidence of change to scores in our system"

    How can this be? I submitted the July Score Result PDF and their website screenshot. There is evidence of change! It should be either one of 2 results:
    1) The scores were incorrect from July to August, but are now correct, OR
    2) The recent scores are incorrect and your original scores are correct.

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  • Darcy123Darcy123 533 replies7 threads Member
    Did you actually see the original scores on the college board site or only the screen shot?
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  • swimdadswimdad 7 replies1 threads New Member
    edited September 10
    I saw the original scores on July 15th on the CB site myself and also downloaded the score report myself. She was checking throughout the summer, and on August 24th, the scores changed on the CB site
    edited September 10
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  • Happytimes2001Happytimes2001 2356 replies19 threads Senior Member
    Could it be that she is being confused with another student? Does she have a common name?
    I would have an attorney write a short letter to the CB with photos of the screen shots. It's likely the people you can spoken to aren't senior enough to look into it or change it if it's a mistake.
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  • CheddarcheeseMNCheddarcheeseMN 3763 replies14 threads Senior Member
    Weird! Almost feel like logging in to my kid’s account to look there but pretty sure this doesn’t happen to anyone else. Let us know what happens.
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  • Darcy123Darcy123 533 replies7 threads Member
    I'm trying to come up with a scenario where 3 different dates and 9 different tests all had scores change and I'm really at a loss. Maybe a different name, but it's hard to believe the other student also took the exact same tests (especially subject tests) on the exact same dates.
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  • RichInPittRichInPitt 2827 replies48 threads Senior Member
    edited September 10
    Her high school would have received Subject Test scores and all of her AP teachers would have received student reports with her score, assuming she entered the data correctly on the test form. What do they say?

    (Fwiw, no such thing as a Calculus Subject Test)
    edited September 10
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  • swimdadswimdad 7 replies1 threads New Member
    Well, her name is not an uncommon one, but I would think the Student # that they write on the test should be a unique one to avoid same names. But at this point, who knows.... I guess I'll have to go the lawyer route....

    Yes, I realize that I typed in the Calculus Subject test in haste... I still had Calc AP on the brain. I meant to say Math Level II with regards to the subject test.

    Again, I'm just dumbfounded that I have the downloaded AP Score result (downloaded myself from the CB site), and we checked weekly from 7/15-8/23 to see if there was any change (there was none). Then on 8/24, everything changed.
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  • skieuropeskieurope 41675 replies8008 threads Super Moderator
    swimdad wrote: »
    Well, her name is not an uncommon one, but I would think the Student # that they write on the test should be a unique one to avoid same names. But at this point, who knows.... I guess I'll have to go the lawyer route....

    Yes, I realize that I typed in the Calculus Subject test in haste... I still had Calc AP on the brain. I meant to say Math Level II with regards to the subject test.

    Again, I'm just dumbfounded that I have the downloaded AP Score result (downloaded myself from the CB site), and we checked weekly from 7/15-8/23 to see if there was any change (there was none). Then on 8/24, everything changed.

    Why would anyone check weekly to see if scores changed from a 5? Makes no sense.
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  • evergreen5evergreen5 2126 replies38 threads Senior Member
    The high school would have a record of the scores from when they were initially released. That record would not change over time.
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  • swimdadswimdad 7 replies1 threads New Member
    edited September 10
    We checked weekly this past summer because we had the same problem in the Summer of 2019 (read my initial post). In that case my daughter got a 5 on her APUSH test when the results came out in July 2019. (My 2 older sons never had this problem when they were in high school). In October 2019 she registered for a test and happened to look at her APUSH score, and, unbelievably, it had changed to a 3. (Meaning from my point of view, the score changed sometime from July->Oct 2019). All we had as proof were screenshots (and NO downloaded Score PDF).
    So for this past 2020 summer we checked every week as a precaution. I felt good until 8/24.
    Should I have done something different? I'm just looking for solutions....
    edited September 10
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  • NoisymomNoisymom 87 replies3 threads Junior Member
    @swimdad That is a really weird situation.... I guess in your case I would ask her school for records/results they got from her tests/exams and if it proves your information go the lawyer way as someone suggested earlier.
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  • swimdadswimdad 7 replies1 threads New Member
    @evergreen5 @Noisymom

    Good suggestions.... I'm going to write her principal and ask if they got the initial scores on 7/15 (and not a later update after 8/24).
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  • evergreen5evergreen5 2126 replies38 threads Senior Member
    edited September 10
    If the high school has Naviance, look there. And call the high school's counseling office today. High schools get a download of score data at the time scores are released, not a month later.
    edited September 10
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  • NoisymomNoisymom 87 replies3 threads Junior Member
    Agree with contacting counseling office today, her counselor should have all that information. It might take longer to get the response from the principal...
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  • theloniusmonktheloniusmonk 3108 replies5 threads Senior Member
    "I'm just looking for solutions.... "

    I don't think you could have done anything different, you've gotten good advice on talking to the school/counselor about the scores. You should figure out now what happens if the later scores are the actual scores. The APs are self-reported, so you may not need to submit them though colleges may wonder why you didn't report the score if you took the class. The subject tests are totally optional, if not test-blind, so I wouldn't worry about them. Hope things work out.
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  • NoisymomNoisymom 87 replies3 threads Junior Member
    OP, have you heard back from your daughter's school? Any updates, good news?
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  • Groundwork2022Groundwork2022 3743 replies91 threads Senior Member
    OP, you had me logging on to check my DD's scores. Thankfully they were the same. I noticed she has a unique "AP number" on the score report. I assume you've checked and compared that number on all reports and they were the same?

    Keep us posted on any updates. This is an unimaginable situation and completely the wrong time for this to happen as ACT and CB both seem to be a hot mess right now.
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  • swimdadswimdad 7 replies1 threads New Member
    @Noisymom
    We contacted our school, and her counselor was amazed at what happened. (They know what kind of student she is). Truthfully, we should have contacted them last year when her APUSH and SAT II scores changed.
    Currently, they are trying to get the district IT department to get backups starting with the first CB score push to her high school The school's current record of her AP scores are the incorrect ones. They said once they find the 7/15/2020 score push, they are going to examine more "pushes" to see when the exact date her scores changed.
    I do appreciate their efforts. The problem is (I'm in California) that our school district is preparing to start moving the students back in-school next week (from all online to part in-class, part online)... so obviously they have other problems to deal with at the moment.
    What also has me worried is even if I get verifying data from my school, I still have to battle with the CB to get them to change her scores. (Part of me thinks that with the lawsuits they are currently dealing with, they'll be reluctant to admit they have any fault). Her early decision college app is due by Nov 1st.... so my fingers are crossed.
    Thanks for your follow up. I'll definitely report back more once I get some more concrete details.
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  • swimdadswimdad 7 replies1 threads New Member
    @Groundwork2022
    I just asked my daughter regarding the number you were talking about. (I do see that "AP Number" on her score report).
    She tells me that number is not just student specific, but also date specific. By that I mean she doesn't think that was the same number on her 2019 score report (although to be honest, we didn't download that score report cuz who would have ever thought scores could change?). Also, I don't see anywhere in her CB AP score page where that AP Number is referenced.
    BUT, I will be the first to admit that I'm no expert in this score report area.

    In retrospect, here's what I would do differently after suffering this fate 2 times. The problem is that you don't find out you have a problem until it's too late.
    1) when the scores come out, take a screen shot and download the score report
    2) call CB customer service at once, talk to a rep, have them enter in a case report the "good" scores as THEY see them. Send them the screen shot and score report to add to the case report.
    3) then if the scores do change, there's a trail on their system and not just evidence only coming from you.

    I never did step 2). CB probably assumes we are trying to game their system and trying to raise her score. I can understand that thinking, but it does nothing to help us. All the corroborating evidence I have from step 1) is useless in the CB's eyes.

    Appreciate your thoughts... I'll definitely post an update once I hear anything.
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