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Inquiring about a transfer to Princeton/Johns Hopkins?

Invincible95Invincible95 13 replies6 threads New Member
edited September 2013 in Specific Med Schools
Guys I was wondering about the probability of transferring to either of these universities.
I am:
*International.
*Already in Medical school, heading to the 2nd year.
*Note that, where I am, the system goes like this, there are no 3 years for Physics, Biology, and Chemistry. There are 6 years pure Medicine. And then 1 year for practice under supervision.
*Where I am is awful.

Also note that JHU did send me an e-mail asking me to consider applying, back when I was a high school junior.

Thank You.
edited September 2013
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  • Matt4200Matt4200 997 replies67 threads Senior Member
    I think you're in the wrong forum
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  • Invincible95Invincible95 13 replies6 threads New Member
    Thanks for your tremendous help!!
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  • SBVettSBVett 202 replies0 threads Junior Member
    Wow, I never thought I'd run into anyone else that also quit medical school overseas. I was also in a 6 year program, and also only finished the 1st year. You are in the wrong forum (this one is for UC transfers), but I'll tell you what I know, even though this might crush your dreams. First, there are only a handful of medical schools in the US that accept transfer students at all (and the ones you mentioned don't do it). In the US, you are usually expected to have completed a bachelor's degree before starting medical school. Even if you do get into med school here in the US, you will enter as a first year medical student.
    There are also more requirements than just the classes you mentioned. For example, have you taken Calculus? Many med schools here require calculus for admission. Each med school has different requirements, however. Competition for medical school here is very tough (as it is anywhere else in the world), so even if you do complete your med school prereqs overseas, you will be competing with all the US applicants who finished everything here. You would also need to take the MCAT (Medical College Admission Test) and score VERY, VERY high to get into Princeton or Johns Hopkins. Other things that help you getting into med school are having experience in hospitals and around doctors (which you can probably get right now), volunteering, doing research, publishing a paper in a scholarly journal, etc.
    One option would be to drop out of your current med school now, move to the US, get a bachelor's degree here, and complete most/all your requirements for med school here. In my case, the classes that transferred over towards my undergraduate education (at a UC) were general chemistry, biochemistry, cell biology, histology, and anatomy. I would highly suggest you go to another state though, since transferring to a 4 year university in California as an international student is nearly impossible (you are very unlikely to complete all the admission requirements overseas).
    Another option, have you considered finishing your medical education where you are now, taking the USMLE, and then doing your residency in the US, and becoming a physician here?
    Your experience in med school now will certainly help you in your application, if you decide to move to the US and go to med school here. However, don't expect a lot of your coursework to transfer, and keep in mind that it will take you longer than 6 years to become a doctor here (3-4 years to get a Bachelor's + 4 of med school).
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  • Invincible95Invincible95 13 replies6 threads New Member
    Thanks, SBVett.
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  • Lemaitre1Lemaitre1 1732 replies4 threads Senior Member
    As far as I know, Princeton does not have a medical school. It is rumored that they could have acquired what is now Drexel University School of Medicine in 1998 but at the time medical schools were seen as bottomless money pits with Penn and Harvard losing huge amounts of money on their medical centers. Princeton reportedly saw it as too risky and passed on the opportunity and Drexel ended up getting the school which in hindsight was a very smart move when the financial crises facing academic medical centers lifted.
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  • RaycmrRaycmr 300 replies2 threads Member
    Lemaitre is correct. Princeton has no medical school. It's UG is very hard to get into. They have about 80 spots in molecular bio and an equal number in ecology and evolutionary biology. They do not have a regular bio program or what we used to call premed. Their hard science focus for decades was physics not bio. They were more the humanities Ivy League school. Just in the last 4 years they built a new chemistry building.

    Rutgers just got back their medical school from the State of New Jersey which was called Robert Wood Johnson. Johns Hopkins has a great medical school. Their UG program in written resource books and in other websites is considered very intense and stressful.

    It is a shame you can't stay in med school and get a tutor. Or even take a year off and study the subjects that you are weak on or even study MCAT type study guides for that year to fill the the blanks in the hard sciences.
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  • RaycmrRaycmr 300 replies2 threads Member
    What country are you currently studying medicine in? I was told by a Rutgers graduate that NYU in New York has a two year mini medical school run for students that attend overseas medical schools that are not accredited in the US. It allows them to get a New York State lic. One caveat is adjacent state New Jersey still will never grant a license to such graduates.
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  • Invincible95Invincible95 13 replies6 threads New Member
    Well, thank you all, guys. But with all due respect to NYU, it's not exactly my definition of the elite. Again, many thanks.
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  • RaycmrRaycmr 300 replies2 threads Member
    US News just ranked NYU 32nd in the nation. The tuition prices are likely in the top 10. They are a good school but it is in the Village in NYC. They are the only school I know of that runs that mini med school to help US graduates from overseas med schools not up to US standards get a US medical license. A friend's S is getting his PHD in physical therapy there, and they use the same anatomy labs as the med students. There are grads from ivies that can't get into med school so there is no guarantee.
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  • artloversplusartloversplus 8605 replies251 threads Senior Member
    I think you have to change your attitude in cc. You are not at the top of the world and you have to learn humble, otherwise why are you asking if you knew them all.

    Princeton does not accept transfers.

    Med school is a graduate school in the USA and Jhu UG does not offer medicine. Jhu med school does not take transfers either.
    There is no financial aid for US med schools for international students you have to have at least 200k Usd in the bank before they will accept you. And no transfers in Any med schools either.
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