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Disregard Affirmative Action, Accepted with 1840 SAT/Asian

EmnmEmnm Registered User Posts: 7 New Member
edited July 2010 in Stanford University
I didn't have the best stats. I am neither a legacy nor an athlete. I just wanted to let you guys know that hyper selected schools like these will give you a chance. You should not give up hope because you failed to score that high SAT score or get a B in a class. Do your best and show who you are through your essays/application and I am sure they'll give you a shot.

Here are my stats. I know I have more extra ECs under my belt and other things that I wrote in my common application, but this is what I wanted to show without disclosing too much information. This is all I could recall from the top of my head from my senior year:

School: Public in Southern CA
GPA: 4.00 UW
Class Rank: 4/~500
Ethnicity: Asian American
Gender: Male

SAT I: 1840 (600 writing, 620 math, 620 critical reading)

SAT II: English Literature – 600
US History – 740
Math II - 720

AP Courses that I have taken:
9th Grade: Human Geography – 4
10th Grade: World History – 5
Chemistry – 4
11th Grade: US History – 5
Psychology – 5
Art History – 5
Physics B – 4
English Language – 4
12th Grade:US Government – 5
Biology - 5
English Literature - 4

College Credit Classes taken at Community College:
Intro to Poli Sci. – A
Poli Sci 2 – A
Calculus I – A
Calculus II– B

EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES:
=California Scholarship Federation 11th, 12th
- 2008-09 Tutoring Officer
- Life Membership Recipient
- 50 hours of tutoring/community service
- 3 hours/week even during season for sports (wrestling, track)

=KEY CLUB 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th
-Over 100 Hours of Community Service

=Academic League - 12th

=Science Olympiad - 11th, 12th


WORK EXPERIENCE:
=Summer School Assistant
- Chemistry Lab Assistant June 2007- July 2008
- Music Assistant – June – July 2008
- Office Aide – June – July 2007
- Ceramics Assistant – June-July 2007
- 8 hours/week

DISTINCTIONS/HONORS:
- 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 – Principal’s Honor Roll
-2008 Student Poll Community Service Award
-2008 Questbridge College-Prep Scholarship
-2008-09 Questbridge Scholarship Finalist
-2009 Top 5% of Class
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Replies to: Disregard Affirmative Action, Accepted with 1840 SAT/Asian

  • silverturtlesilverturtle Registered User Posts: 12,496 Senior Member
    While everyone has a chance, it is important to qualify your situation as highly exceptional.
  • trf1021trf1021 Registered User Posts: 426 Member
    Did you get your AP scores for this year already or is what you wrote just what you think you'll get?
  • zenkoanzenkoan Registered User Posts: 1,118 Senior Member
    ^Emnm, with respect to the title of your thread, Stanford and other top schools do practice affirmative action with respect to low-income students; it's not just a racial thing. I see that you were a Questbridge Finalist, for example; that is one factor among many taken into account in admissions, and part of the context in which things like test scores are viewed.
  • GoldenCoastGoldenCoast Registered User Posts: 109 Junior Member
    Did you get your AP scores for this year already or is what you wrote just what you think you'll get?

    I'm guessing he's a current Stanford student, as he said:
    This is all I could recall from the top of my head from my senior year
  • EmnmEmnm Registered User Posts: 7 New Member
    Yes, I am a current student at Stanford.
    My socioeconomic status probably did play a part in the selection process, but I strongly felt that the essay was what I felt the most important part of the selection process.
  • cst11cst11 Registered User Posts: 46 Junior Member
    If you don't mind, may I ask what your essay was about?
    Thank you for the thread by the way. It was very inspiring :D
  • JebarPolskyJebarPolsky Registered User Posts: 766 Member
    I would love to see your essay too. This is very interesting and gives hope to me, an Asian.
  • Rtgrove123Rtgrove123 Registered User Posts: 1,798 Senior Member
    Being a QB kid was what helped you get in. Honestly, essays are fine and dandy. However, they can't ressurect the dead.
  • ripemangoripemango Registered User Posts: 957 Member
    ^ I agree. There are alway these threads about success stories in college admissions, but there is always a catch as well. You can't ignore the fact that without a hook, you test scores and affirmative action will play a big part in admissions.
  • EmnmEmnm Registered User Posts: 7 New Member
    I guess I probably should change the title of this thread. I come to CC and see people using their ethnicity, SAT scores, or anything else as disqualifies. That really should not be the case and I honestly feel that it is a very minuscule part of the decision process.

    Yes, I agree that QB did play a vital role in my application process but I feel it wasn't the only thing. I guess I had that hook, but good stats do not differentiate you from the many numbers of people with the same or better score.

    Nonetheless, I can't say anything for sure. I am not an admissions officer so I could only speculate what they were looking for when they saw my application.

    For anyone curious, I am a 2013 undergraduate. This means that I am going to be a sophomore in the following fall quarter.

    And yes, I did get into UC schools: UCI, UCSD, UCLA, and UCB

    As much as I would like to post my essays, I'd rather not disclose them publicly.
  • EmnmEmnm Registered User Posts: 7 New Member
    My friend, a current Stanford student, got a 1970 and his family income is about 80k a year. He's also Asian. He only took 3 APs: Bio, Calc BC, and World History.
  • ForeverMineForeverMine Registered User Posts: 26 New Member
    Did your friend have any other "hooks"? He sounds pretty unremarkable.
  • copyxmkiicopyxmkii - Posts: 210 Junior Member
    You can't really say he is unremarkable unless you know him.
    Maybe he designed a nuclear reactor or something. I wouldn't
    call that unremarkable.
  • hotjava64hotjava64 Registered User Posts: 202 Junior Member
    I think you guys are jumping the gun in your characterization of Emnm as “a QuestBridge kid”. For example, his 11 4’s and 5’s on 11 APs are a powerful validation of his academic ability, even if his SAT’s aren’t. With the right approach and careful preparation, the SAT is a test that can be gamed. Not so with an AP—you need to know the material. I don’t consider my own high SAT scores as irrefutable evidence of my intelligence. Personally, I respect a high GPA much more because it shows not only intelligence, but the willingness to work hard, a trait that is highly correlated to college success, and a trait that Emnm possesses in large amounts. For example, I happen to know that Emnm set and accomplished some incredible personal goals during high school – things that could only come across in an essay, which, by the way, Stanford places a HUGE emphasis on, both from first-hand knowledge (talking to my admissions counselor) and Stanford’s own Common Data Set. I just don’t think it’s correct to say that Questbridge was necessarily a game-changer in is application. If, for example, he hadn’t known about Questbridge, and therefore had not applied, would he be a different person? No. I think that the qualities that allowed him to become a Questbridge finalist are the same ones that got him admission to a top 10 school.
    Note: Correct me if I’m wrong, but I was under the impression that Stanford was need-blind, as in they didn’t look at your economic info until after your acceptance. Can anyone confirm this?
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