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Studying in China a Good Idea?

El ReyEl Rey Registered User Posts: 96 Junior Member
edited November 2011 in Study Abroad
I've completed one year of college at my community college now and am wondering if there are any benefits towards doing school out in China.

Specifically it would be the University in Hangzhou. I lived in that area a year ago and am wondering if an American studying out in China would be a good idea...
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  • El ReyEl Rey Registered User Posts: 96 Junior Member
    no help...really?
  • BudweiserBudweiser Registered User Posts: 51 Junior Member
    El Rey, would you tell me the exact name of that university if you don't mind?

    I think you will need to know something about universities here in China before you actually make a decision(I'm Chinese and I live near to Hangzhou(about one hour drive from where I live) :

    1. To get into a university, you do not apply to it like students in USA do. We do not write essays and submit applications but we take standardized exams, called College Entrance Exams--pretty much the same as SATs--but you have only one chance to take it within a year, and the scores will determine which university you can get into. And, there are not as many good universities here as in the States, however a much larger number of high school seniors are trying to get into them(we have the largest population after all;)), which results in a situation where the students in a nationally recognized university are far more academically motivated and care about their studies than in one not so "famous" throughout the country.
    So this is why I'm asking for the exact name of the university you are interested in--there are 3-4 universities at most which are considered "prestigious institutions"(actually one of them ranks No. 3 among all universities in China, while the others are not that outstanding) in Hangzhou.

    I guess what I'm trying to get is that, if you are not able to get into a good university, as I've suggested above, I don't think studying in one is really really rewarding. You do not have too many choices in college education in China--a sad fact but yeah, such is the case.*shrugs*

    2. Are you coming to China on a Study Abroad program sponsored by your college or are you coming on your own? If you're coming on a Study Abroad program, I believe that university will have everything sorted out for you. But if you are coming on your own, as I've mentioned above that you do not apply to a university to get in but take exams, how do you plan to get admitted? --This is a problem because I'm not sure that university is among those that will admit a foreign student if he/she does not come on a program sponsored by his/her school.(I'm not familiar with policies on this issue since they must vary from one school to another, but I've rarely heard a foreign student enrolled in a university in that way.) And, if you eventually get in that university, you'll have to sort everything out by yourself.

    3.I see that you have lived in Hangzhou for sometime, so you don't have much difficulty in Mandarin at least in everyday life, yes? But have you tried sitting in a university class? Did you find it difficult to follow the professor? Again, if you come on a Study Abroad program, I believe that university will offer courses specially designed for you, but if you come on your own, you'll have to overcome the language difficulty yourself.

    4.And I think you need to spare a bit time to think about this--if you live in a dorm with three other Chinese students(normally 4 students share a dorm), I'm sure they will be super nice to you, however, they might have problem understanding what you are trying to say. I assure you that they are more than happy if they can help or talk with you when you encounter problems, but they might have difficulty communicating with you, and you might feel lonely if you cannot talk to someone about your concerns. Another case: if they are laughing and joking about something, maybe a joke or someone stupid on TV, can you understand them? Well, I know that you may not totally understand them, just like millions of times I cannot fully understand what my American friends are saying, but if this happens so many many times, will you feel you are somewhat isolated and thus a little bit homesick?

    5.One more thing, are you a party animal? Partying is not that common in a Chinese university as one in the US. Girls may spend their evenings shopping with a few friends or maybe chatting in their dorms(sorry I don't know much about what guys are up to if they have their evenings free). But generally students go to the library for homework, and, there's a good chance that girls and guys will go out dating, of course. So if you find yourself uncomfortable being without parties for a month or so, think carefully about studying in a typical Chinese university.
    But, hey, studying in China will not be boring at all--you'll have fun with your schoolmates and everybody's nice!

    I'm telling you these not because I don't like universities in my own country, nor do I mean to discourage you, but I'm trying to give you a glimpse into real college life, and about the things I've seen happening to foreigners working or studying in China.

    oops I'm writing a book...but I can give you more information if you have any other questions, and, welcome to China!:D
  • BudweiserBudweiser Registered User Posts: 51 Junior Member
    oh, I nearly forgot, I need to tell you that "college" is a totally different concept from "liberal arts college". If a Chinese school identifies itself as XXX College but not XXX University, it is in no comparison with a uniersity. A Chinese college is not a LAC, but is supposed for someone whose scores are too low to get into a university.-->this is why I was saying "universities" from the beginning. sorry if there's confusion:p
  • extrabobbyextrabobby Registered User Posts: 13 New Member
    Well, I do know that a lot of employers (especially in business, journalism, etc.) are valuing experience with China, either study abroad or language experience, highly these days. There was some article in the NY Times about it awhile ago...
  • adisadis Registered User Posts: 3 New Member
    Study in china is an eminent decision. Flourishing China is to conduct the Olympic Games this year.It's better to study near peking to make it possible to participate the pageant and you will experience the grumous traditional Chinese-culture atmosphere.
    U could send your resume and application to the University you wish to enroll.
    U'd better call the school administration Office first to clarify its policy towards foreign students.
    It's obvious that they won't treat foreign student as native students.
    Also you are firmly not required a score of Chinese College Entrance Examination(mentioned in the 3 floor)
    Good luck.
  • adisadis Registered User Posts: 3 New Member
    University,I agree!!!!
  • malrmalr Registered User Posts: 29 New Member
    Anybody know anything? Thanks
  • hsinwei89811hsinwei89811 Registered User Posts: 187 Junior Member
    Welcome to Beijing. Hahaha!
  • FreestylaFreestyla Registered User Posts: 367 Member
    Slightly old, but pretty significant nonetheless.
    FT.com / World - US puts premium on Mandarin speakers
  • PlattsburghLoserPlattsburghLoser Registered User Posts: 5,487 Senior Member
    I studied abroad in China through the Freeman Asia Three Cities program that went to Beijing, Shanghai and Hong Kong.

    I highly recommend researching the culture before going. I learned that the hard way. In Beijing...well, I'll just say "racism" is an understatement.
  • hitepanhitepan - Posts: 2 New Member
    Some of the information mentioned in the 3 floor are very outdated. Foreign students are not required to take the national College Entrance Exams. For most universities, all you need is to take the HSK test, which is a Chinese language proficiency test. For instance, Zhejiang University, top 4 univeristy in China, best university in Hangzhou, it requires HSK 5 (highest is 11) for most departments.

    About the housing part, there are dormitory for foreign students, you can stay in single room or even serving apartment as long as you are willing to pay USD20 per day. You may wanna goto China Education Center, it has lots of photos and information of Chinese university. Some of the dormitories are as good as hotel!

    It is a good idea to study in China in Chinese university, if you want to learn Chinese, get to know local culture and develop your personal connection.
  • pharmakeus01pharmakeus01 Registered User Posts: 414 Member
    Foreign students are not required to take Gao kao or the national college entrance exam!
    I highly recommend you to apply to the best secondary institutions in China as they happen to offer decent education. The best universities in China are ranked well below any of U.S's flagship state universities. For instance, Qing Hua is ranked 100 or something by Shanghai jiao da's world ranking.
    The HSK test is retarded so long as you can speak and write decent Chinese.
    But overall, I think the idea of studying in China horrible and with no real benefits. It would be nice if you can actually get academic credits for your study in China, but the fact is, beside learning a bunch of Chinese, expect to learn little to nothing.
    Chinese education requires not creative or otherwise logical thinking but root memorization, this is very well reflected in their examination systems, and believe me, I know a bunch of professors in China, and they have been complaining for years about China's crappy educational system. They restrict your publications too, and oh yeah, they put censorship and all kinds of good stuff on you.
    But if you are fine with all that, then, why not, commie china may well be the place for you. I still think you should do an exchange program rather than completing a degree there.

    If you really want to study Chinese, just go to University of Hong Kong, it is the second best university in entire east asia. It has excellent academic programs and all classes there are taught in English.

    btw, Chinese are not as friendly as you might imagine, and they are certainly not as friendly as they deem themselves to be. The fact is, if you are a japanese, prepare a lot of fights; if you are a white dude, prepares to get your ass kicked once you date an Asian girl.

    still... China is an awesome place. It is a totally different world....
  • LongPrimeLongPrime - Posts: 5,208 Senior Member
    Americans are pretty isolated both physically and intellectually. Compare this to the number of students from China studying somewhere else either at the undergrad or grad level.

    googled: Chinese Students Abroad
    Benefits amid a great upsurge of Chinese students abroad_Insight?China Economic Net
  • PlattsburghLoserPlattsburghLoser Registered User Posts: 5,487 Senior Member
    And that answer's the OP's question...how?
  • FlashEffectFlashEffect Registered User Posts: 1 New Member
    lol.... XD That explains a lot and my ass is gonna get kicked for sure...Anyways there are 3 reasons I wanna go there for.
    1)Study ofcourse that's one XD...
    2) I am fan of Martial Arts and I am gonna learn it!
    3)It's (China Medical University) the top 14th and is only 15000$ per year with amazing accommodation which will boost my Pocket Money... because the price is like nothing lol.. so my father won't have any money problems and I will be getting what I wish for.. :D
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