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Swarthmore Class of 2018 Regular Decision Thread


Replies to: Swarthmore Class of 2018 Regular Decision Thread

  • qgroupqgroup Registered User Posts: 150 Junior Member
    I completely agree Englishman. S is excited to be admitted but he has had a lot of time to get attached to other schools while waiting. And for my part I was expecting slightly better FA not significantly worse. S will go to admitted student weekend still and give it fair consideration. He has never visited but loves all he has heard/read about the school.
  • gkielygkiely Registered User Posts: 14 New Member
    Waitlisted...won't stay on the list.
  • nhdmaniacnhdmaniac Registered User Posts: 361 Member
    edited April 2014
    I (perhaps mistakenly, but I'm like 70% sure that I'm right) recall an article that a read perhaps a year ago about how different colleges calculate home value differently. Some will consider their entire value as they would cash assets, and others cap home value at X times of parent income. Swarthmore considers entire home value. Perhaps this is why everyone's financial aid packages differ from other colleges.

    edit: here's the article http://www.thecollegesolution.com/will-your-home-equity-hurt-financial-aid-chances-a-case-study/
  • qgroupqgroup Registered User Posts: 150 Junior Member
    That is definitely not the issue for us as we have very near 0 equity in our home (lost over 40% of its value since we bought it).
  • tomatosproutstomatosprouts Registered User Posts: 45 Junior Member
    I got no financial aid as well, though our EFC is 15,000 and my parents don't own a house.
  • nhdmaniacnhdmaniac Registered User Posts: 361 Member
    @tomatosprouts It sounds to me like you should appeal unless there's some reason you can attribute such a high Swat EFC.
  • tomatosproutstomatosprouts Registered User Posts: 45 Junior Member
    @nhdmaniac We listed my father's employee benefits and that my grandparents are planning to contribute some to the tuition, but Swat still expects us to pay more than double our EFC, which just isn't feasible.
  • nhdmaniacnhdmaniac Registered User Posts: 361 Member
    @tomatosprouts I'd still recommend giving them a call. When I appealed for Bowdoin, they told us why there was such a big difference between the NPC and what they were expecting, and we got to lower the price by a few grand by clarifying on some stuff (but still not enough to make it financially feasible). The worst they can do is keep your package the way it is, and knowing would probably give you some closure, in a way.

    I totally feel you about financial aid, though. I'm going to appeal a couple of packages that gave me absolutely nothing (and our EFC is not 65k) in at least hopes of understanding why it's that way. It looks like I'm headed to a safety college despite some awesome acceptances. I'm a believer in the idea that people who get into Swarthmore (and other elite colleges) can do well no matter where they end up matriculating, be it Harvard or a state university (within reason, of course): that it's not the school that produces great graduates, but the students who are capable of achieving great things that make great graduates.
  • coasecoase Registered User Posts: 651 Member
    I have to believe that Swarthmore shot themselves in the foot on this, sending out decisions (by Mail) last Thursday but only arriving 4 days later (March 31st), when we have had decisions from Ivy's and LAC for days, students have already in their minds decided where there preferences are, Swat has, I believe, missed out on alot of great students by leaving notifications and being the last to notify, anyone agree?

    The good news is that Jim Bock may be listening.
    According to Jim Bock ’90, vice president and dean of admissions, in future years, the college may switch to exclusively electronic notifications of admissions decisions. This is a practice that many comparable institutions such as Williams and Amherst have adopted in recent years.
  • EnglishmanEnglishman Registered User Posts: 391 Member
    @Coase Good point, more alarming to me as an accepted student with a number of other offers, not only was the late notification (annoying) added to the significant drop of over 1000 applications (troubling), but I hear alot of students turned off Swarthmore for the issues noted here. I have acceptance from Williams, Amherst and Wesleyan and Vassar, even after being courted by admissions at Swarthmore and a rubbish fin adi package, also the accepted students days are a week after all the others, I think Swarthmore has really @#$%&;* up this year.

    I wont be attending admitted students day or Swat, but I will be going to another highly selective LAC which had more apps this year, offered me full aid, serves decent food and helps me get a decent job.
  • lacgradlacgrad Registered User Posts: 108 Junior Member
    Wow, I am very surprised by students experiences with financial aid. Our experience was quite different. Swarthmore's aid package was significantly better than numerous excellent LACs. It was slightly better than Williams and Williams also required some loans where Swarthmore has no required loan component. Also, we found Swarthmore's Ride the Tide's date helpful and coordinated with other schools. For example, this year a prospective could go to Williams April 17 & 18, Swarthmore April 24 & 25, and Harvard April 26-28. My son's experience at Ride the Tide, with extremely friendly and continually questioning students, led him to attend Swarthmore. Williams tempted him with an early write, but Swarthmore was his choice in the end.
  • KeDIX1414KeDIX1414 Registered User Posts: 380 Member
    I can't believe that Swat had such a significant drop in applications! Do you guys no why?
  • coasecoase Registered User Posts: 651 Member
    I can't believe that Swat had such a significant drop in applications! Do you guys no why?
    In the article cited above, the Dean of Admissions offers some answers.
    Bock attributed the drop in applications to, among other things, “an increase in early decision activity at peer institutions; economic and demographic trends affecting many schools, especially in the northeast; and an additional essay the College required this year.”
    The bad press last year did not help, either.

  • KeDIX1414KeDIX1414 Registered User Posts: 380 Member
    1000 applicants still sounds like a huge drop though...
  • FromNJFromNJ Registered User Posts: 2 New Member
    I am shocked that Vassar's F/A is better than Swat for you @Englishman, our F/A was much better from Swat than Vassar. Vassar's F/A relied on a loan component that Swat did not, and the parental contribution was quite a bit higher. We had the same experience with an older child who had applied to both--he did not end up at Swat (or Vassar--Vassar;s F/A was not as good then either) but it was a tough decision. Vassar was immediately taken off the list. Swat is still high on the list and it will be a very difficult decision in the end.
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