2013 Best Colleges Preview: Top 25 National Universities

<p>2013 Best Colleges Preview: Top 25 National Universities</p>

<p>2013</a> Best Colleges Preview: Top 25 National Universities - US News and World Report</p>

<p>So there could be a sole # 1 this year. There are only 26 schools among the top 25 univerisites - only one spot could have two schools. So, the order could be</p>


<p>If they put Harvard on the top, then they need to explain a lot about what happend recently at Harvard. I guess those things do not matter…</p>

<p>Thank you! </p>

<p>I only looked briefly, but it appears that only one school was edged out…</p>

<p>Wake Forest ~:(~</p>

<p>So, despite cheating and intentionally misreporting data, Emory University keeps its top 25 status. That tells a lot about the credibility of the USN&WR ranking.</p>

<p>Bye bye Wake Forest!</p>

<p>Frankly, I’m surprised that USC is on the list and the University of Michigan is not.</p>


Yes, it tells us that USNWR is sticking by its methodology and not artificially lowering a school’s score.</p>


Basically everything you wrote here is wrong.</p>

<p>In the 2012 edition, there are 10 schools in the top 10, but 5 schools occupy the #5 spot and 2 schools occupy the #1 spot. That’s because USNWR compensates for ties by skipping the corresponding following ranks. For example, if H & P tie at #1, there is no #2, meaning there are still only 2 schools in the top 2, not 3. What this does tell us is that there is a tie on or near the #25 spot.</p>

<p>Also, I fail to see how a reasonable person could draw a conclusion of Harvard’s academic standing based on one class.</p>



<p>In the past, schools that were caught cheating were left unranked in the subsequent year. Since that wasn’t the case for Emory, it looks like a double standard to me.</p>


If that was USNWR’s previous policy, I believe their new one is an improvement. Unranking a school (which is basically saying the school is subpar) will mislead any reader who is trying to find out which schools are the best - in other words, the entire point of USNWR. Yes, Emory provided inaccurate data; USNWR should disclose this and adjust the school’s ranking appropriately, which is exactly what they are doing. The stigma of having an asterisk attached to the school’s rank is punishment enough.</p>



<p>Thank you. Guess that I was not thinking. It will be the last place with a tie that exceeds 25.</p>



<p>But, this is a yearly ranking, right? If the #1 school ties with massive cheating and suicide, should USNWR explain a little?</p>

<p>It is interesting that NYU, which does not appear on this list, in TWO recent international rankings of world universities, [QS</a> World University Rankings - Topuniversities](<a href=“http://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/world-university-rankings/2012?page=1]QS”>http://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/world-university-rankings/2012?page=1), and <a href=“http://www.shanghairanking.com/ARWU2012.html[/url]”>http://www.shanghairanking.com/ARWU2012.html&lt;/a&gt;, ranks (much) higher than Dartmouth, Emory, Georgetown, U. of Virginia, Vanderbilt, Rice, USC, Notre Dame, and Wash. U. at St. Louis, which are on this list.</p>

<p>It just shows that rankings critically depend on the criteria employed. Those by USN&WR should not be treated as the bible.</p>

<p>To be fair, Dartmouth gets screwed just by the fact that it’s an LAC with a few graduate schools being treated as a full fledged research university. Also, at least Georgetown is given its dues in the Political and International Studies subject category of the QS Rankings, where it ties U Chicago and NYU for #13 (some might argue it should be higher). I agree with the last part though, differences in criteria can cause major shifts and people need to see which rankings emphasize the criteria that matter more to them.</p>

<p>Well, in which league do Dartmouth and Georgetown (and some others) want to play, that of major universities or the LAC league? They can’t have it both ways. As LACs, they would be great, at or near the top. But as universities, since they are weak in research, especially in natural sciences and engineering, they will inevitably rank low in any ranking that takes research seriously. Foreign rankings such as the two I quote above do, USN&WR in its infinite wisdom doesn’t. Hence the big difference.</p>

<p>Students cheating have nothing to do with a schools rank so I’m not sure why you brought Harvard into your debate over whether Emory should go unranked a year.</p>

<p>Crap!! Wake Forest dropped out? I feel sad now for our neighbor down the road.</p>

<p>^OH noes, he’s only attending a top 30 school now. The horror. He’ll be fine, the education hasnt changed</p>

<p>Duke ties with Penn for #8 </p>

<p>Califorinia Institute of Technology #10</p>

<p>UNC Chapel Hill #30</p>

<p>[The</a> Herald-Sun - Duke rises in rankings UNC falls](<a href=“http://www.heraldsun.com/view/full_story/20116823/article-Duke-rises-in-rankings--UNC-falls]The”>http://www.heraldsun.com/view/full_story/20116823/article-Duke-rises-in-rankings--UNC-falls)</p>

<p>So the top 7 are HYPSM, Columbia and Chicago.</p>

<p>that Herald-Sun article also implied that #1 was tied by Harvard and Princeton


<p>That article by the Herald was mighty fast!</p>