<p>It is worth for an out-of-state student to go to one of the Arizona publics. Like Arizona State or University of Arizona? Which one is better for business?</p>
<p>They're both good for partying.</p>
<p>Yeah thats what I herd, but how are they academically?</p>
<p>UA is considered better academically, but ASU is better for certain majors (including I <em>think</em> business)</p>
<p>ASU is better for business although UA is overall better academically (#97 vs. third tier). And both are notorious for being huge party schools.</p>
<p>Do you think it's worth for an out of state student to go to either of the schools?</p>
<p>It really depends on what you are looking for. ASU has 40k+ students and U of A has 30k+ . As a an Arizona resident, I don't think that these schools suit me academically, so I am hoping to go out of state.</p>
<p>Jzeukel, it depends on your stats.</p>
<p>i visited one of the universities (which ever one was in Tucson) and i thought the campus and the area was very nice. I would love to live in Tucson some day.</p>
<p>They both suck.
Not even close to worth to going out of state without full ride.</p>
<p>I am a junior and take some classes at ASU and have visited UA several times.
Tuscon area is awful in general. Very dirty.
Everyone tlaks about how great the weather is but that weather is only in the 2-3 months of "winter". The rest of the year, it is 100+.</p>
<p>Not sure if I agree that UA sucks. At the very least I would say that it has a very nice campus. Also, both ASU and UA offer close to full-rides to National Merit and Achievement finalists.</p>
Is this true? This is the first time I've heard that the surroudning area isn't very good. Everything else I've heard is that it is quite nice, the campus in particular.</p>
<p>Tucson is a vile hole. I don't think I've been anywhere in the country that I hated as much. It's a VERY dirty and ugly city. UA has a gorgeous campus though.</p>
<p>Our S turned down a NMF OOS full-ride at UA & AzSU because he was very concerned that he would not have the peer environment of a more selective school. He's very happy at the school he accepted at NMF 1/2 tuition scholarship, USoCal engineering.
I have heard of some folks who are/were happy at both of these schools but both schools have 6-year graduation rates that are pretty low. You can try going to their forums under colleges; both would be under "A." The forums aren't too active, but there was some posting last year.</p>
<p>I've done quite a bit of research into both schools as they're my primary choices at the moment, and I'm also looking to do business.</p>
<p>As an Arizona resident I have to say that I like the Phoenix area much more than Tuscon; possibly it's just because there's so much to do in Phoenix and it's business center, so great for internships and such. </p>
<p>As for academics, assuming you can get into the honors college at either school you'll definately have a peer group that is different than the standard student at either school. If you're looking for every single student to be an overachiever that's concerned about academics, you won't find that, but what large schools do offer it? </p>
<p>However, due to their large size, both universities have something to offer for everyone, whether you want to party or study. Make no mistake, not every smart student has 30k a year to spend on college, so going to school for nearly nothing is very alluring.</p>
<p>When it comes to business, both schools are ranked roughly the same for undergrad by US News, but ASU has more recognition due to its strong MBA program. Personally I'm drawn more towards ASU for business, especially because good internships will be much easier to find in Phoenix. </p>
<p>As for climate and environment: ASU is in Tempe which is a great area for college students, and right in the whole Phoenix metropolitan area which can provide almost anything you could ask for; Tuscon is much smaller, which can be good or bad depending on what you're looking for. The climate is awesome in Arizona once you get accustomed to it; while it does get pretty hot in the afternoon, it's a very dry heat that isn't bad at all during the non-summer months. Of course if you're coming for the north somewhere it will be quite a change, but at least you won't ever have to deal with snow again, and rain pretty rarely.</p>
<p>If you have any other questions, let me know!</p>
<p>BusinessGuy, What do you think of Tucson? Is it really this "vile hole" some say it is? I read somewhere else that Tempe is pretty dirty as well. It's hard to get the truth about these schools since ASU students seem to hate UA and vice-versa.</p>
<p>I'm looking at ASU, but I'm wondering what do you think you would need grades/sat wise to get in. The acceptance rate is around 90%, so does basically everyone get in?</p>
<p>Socal: ASU basically admits nearly anyone to the university itself, so as long as you have a 3.0 and decent test scores you're in. However, that's only the first step; for all of the professional schools (business, engineering, communication), you'll have to apply during your sophomore year and they only take real students, meaning 3.5+ gpa generally (for business at least). It works quite well as the partiers can go their way, graduate with some kind of worthless degree, but they still got what they want, a place to have fun; at the same time the students can pursue their interests and have something worthwhile. Secondly, if you have high SAT scores and good GPA/class rank, the professional schools can grant to guaranteed admission as long as you keep a certain GPA at ASU; for me, I'm guaranteed for the business school if I keep a 3.5 ASU gpa. Then you get to scholarships and honors college, which are great if you have good stats, I recieved a presidents scholarship (8k a year) with 3.5 gpa and 2000 SAT, but I'm instate, so out of state I believe the comparable scholarship is 12k or so. Honors college works similarly, high test scores, good gpa/class rank, essay, and some ECs; they're also building a whole new honors community which should be amazing when it's done for either the 2007 or 2008 school year.</p>
<p>Tom: Tuscon as a whole tends to be very different depending on what kind of neighborhood you're in. There are some rich people there, and those places are nice; however, due to the promixity to the border, many hispanic people also live there, and those areas tend to be the "vile holes" you hear about (not to be racist, but that's basically how it's arranged). Honestly, if you like the whole mexican culture, Tuscon would be fine, but for me, after studying spanish, I'm somewhat adverse to it, so going to Tuscon would be much harder for me.</p>
<p>Tempe is not bad at all from the areas I've seen; sure there's construction around, and it's not a small midwest or northeast town, but for a metropolitan area, it's fine. The main reason I like Tempe is that there's just a lot going on constantly, concerts from various bands, art shows, theatre, plenty of bars for the partiers, and many different stores/places to eat within walking distance of the campus. If possible, I'd visit both schools, or just the one you're most interested in; ASU is very close to Sky Harbor Airport so it's pretty easy to get to, and I'm not too familiar with airports in Tuscon.</p>