Do people get into Ivies with SAT1900+?

<p>I just want to know if people ever get into Ivies with a score of around 1940??? Coz all the other people seem to have like almost perfect scores, at least to me. Should I bother?</p>

<p>Not usually. The book "The Best 373 Colleges" by the Princeton Review shows most of their average scores for each test.</p>

<p>Of course. But to tell you the truth, most people who were admitted with those scores were minorities. Its a sad fact that the criteria for minorities is actually lower then it is for whites. Its insulting for both parties in my opinion.</p>

<p>I'm an international and from a poor country. And at best only 100 students take SAT every year and I guess only 10 of them are able to score above 2000 I guess due to poor English or sth. Does that count?</p>

<p>No..internationals are held to higher standards, especially if they need financial aid. To be honest, the only way You (as an international could get in to a Ivy with a low score) is if you were an olympic athlete, child of a really really famous person, your parents contributed millions to the university.</p>

<p>Very few do. Most of the ones that do are impact athletes. A few more are extremely wealthy legacy and donor children. Perhaps an international who is black and from an African country not represented at a college, or a Brazilian who has always live in a favella with no formal education, would have a shot.</p>

<p>It is extremely regrettable and shameful to see such horrible and false responses in CC. For international students, it's all about GPA.</p>

<p>If you are an international student,
Pros: lower SAT is expected.
Cons: If you don't have good GPA, don't even think about applying. Your chances are a solid 0%</p>

<p>I hope you people who posted above responses delete your own comments, for they do nothing but give false information to people. </p>

<p>The thinking that only minorities and athletes get in ivies and good colleges with low SAT is such an old idea. I think my friends used to tell me that when I was in middle school.</p>

<p>I would think GPA is not a great indicator for international admissions as it depends on your school. There are some reputable international schools that adComs are familar with and that can play a factor. School ranking matters and so does SAT and SAT 2 subject scores.</p>

<p>If I am an adCom and I am looking at 200 students from India, which one would I pick? I can tell you, at least 50% of those students has high GPA/high SAT (2200+). So I have plenty to pick from. On the other hand, someone else who stands apart may catch my eye (if they have done something else nationally or internationally..could be athletics or arts or whatever). At least the int'l students that I know who have gotten into HYP have been stellar in every way.Financial aid is a factor as well.</p>

<p>To the OP - you may have a shot if you have high SAT 2 subject scores. Most internationals have close to 800 in Math /science scores.</p>

<p>Columbia09 said: "Its a sad fact that the criteria for minorities is actually lower then it is for whites. Its insulting for both parties in my opinion."</p>

<p>Only if you pretend that differences in SAT are NOT explained by others factors.</p>

<p>Here's s scenario:</p>

<p>Kid #1- Dad works; college educated mom is at home after school; all native English speakers; home has lots of books and cable computer connections; lots of after school enrichment and help from mom; lots of college prep at HS and study sessions for SATs; has private tutor for SAT prep; gets 2120</p>

<p>Kid #2; both parents work full time +; grandmother who doesn't speak english is at home after school; parents first language not English; no computer at home; HS has little in way of college prep and no SAT classes; no tutor for SAT; gets a 1940 </p>

<p>If you are an AdComm you are much more impressed by the second kid's 1940 than the first kid's 2120.</p>

<p>Pretending that economic and class differences have no effect is ignorant.</p>

<p>Almost everyone who gets into Ivies has "1900+" as a 2400 is also "1900+". But 1940 would be possible usually only with a major hook: athletic recruits are probably the majority of people with sub 2000 SATs who go to Ivies, but others might include first-generation, economically disadvantaged, or URM students with some other hook and great essays.</p>

<p>I don't have a problem with giving extra leeway to kids who have had extreme challenges and hardships. But we have some URM (african american, hispanic) kids at my school who have led privileged lives. I really hope economic backgrounds are taken into consideration.</p>

<p>Do you guys think being an URM from a low income single parent household is in the running for Stanford with a 3.5 UW and a 2150?</p>


<p>You seem to be confusing race with socioeconomic status. The two often go together, but not always, which is why I agree with Columbia in saying that it is silly to have different standards for different races.</p>

<p>Of your two scenarios, the second is indeed more compelling. To conclude, I think that affirmative action should be based on socioeconomic status, not race. After all, in your scenarios, kid #1 could certainly be black and kid #2 could certainly be asian.</p>

<p>Of course, as a rich asian, I get screwed either way. But racial affirmative action makes no sense to me, and socioeconomic affirmative action does.</p>

<p>@Billybeejr - check out the admit threads of Stanford. You definitely have a higher chance than a non-URM with the same stats. Good luck.</p>

<p>Of course. Athletes, and special circumstances</p>