Duke 2014 Hopeful

cdz512
Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:59:45 +0000

– I accept your apology.
My apology was to the OP, why would I apologize to you?
If you did read I said “again, I apologize for my posts.” Again is used to tie one situation to another similar situation that has already been said. In this case, I apologized to the OP first, and so at the end, I apologized again. I don’t see how you could misunderstand that and interpreted as a apology to you, but somehow you did.

– at least its better than taking a sampling from a couple friends to make a sampling size that’s 200 million times smaller than the whole
Did I ever say that I was going to represent my friends as a whole? No. Your statement was that people who get rejected from Stanford don’t show interest or potential, I said no and I gave you an example. I never stated that I was going to use it as a sampling. Most of the statements you made didn’t even said the word “some” or “most”, so to readers, it implies that all of the students are like this.

To me, he just sounds like he’s mad his school isn’t ranked number one. Again, you need to learn to argue better by using some facts and not other people’s opinions.

Other people’s opinion. Hmm isn’t your so called “statistics” opinions? From like 3,200 people. Isn’t ranking opinions? how is it facts, especially when it represents only a tiny fraction? especially when it states loud and clear “Peer Review”. Peer Review is other presidents view on the other college.
I never intended on using my to represent the whole. You simply never use the word “most” and “some”. After we bring up that demonstrated interest isn’t a major factor you then say it is a “possible”.
I highly doubt that he is mad he is not number one. If Stanford has so many applications, he doesn’t care about being number one, he knows that a lot people is going to apply, just like all the other schools and especially top schools that is ranked), especially if he already acknowledge that his school is one of the “top” schools. I’m asking, how do you he is mad he just isn’t ranked number one?

– first of all, I told you to research because you had no idea how important of a concept yield is to these top schools that are not HYPSM. Secondly, in the context of the top 50 schools, HYPSM is tier 1 and Duke is tier 2. Sorry to break it to you, but Duke and HYPSM are on different levels.

I would like you to show me where it says that “HYPSM is tier 1 and Duke is tier 2.”

– first of all, I do not “extremely worship” rankings, I just don’t think they are extremely overrated like you. And second of all, I don’t adorn numbers, I use them as support against all of your arguments because frankly, facts are much stronger than saying, “well my friend did this and my friend did that.” So to turn the table on you, I simply don’t feel like wasting MY time arguing with a person who thinks all statistics, numbers, and rankings are extremely overrated and who never uses any factual based evidence to support himself.

Nice try. I’m overrated? I have not even said anything about myself and my personal credentials. How do you know I’m “overrated”? Again I would like you to know that “peer review” is also opinions, not facts. I thought you read the US News’s methodology. And again I never used my examples to say this represents the whole.

You said “students don’t just rely on rankings, they really do research a lot to make sure they choose the BEST university, which in the case of Duke and Stanford, is Stanford”
This statement, in which you never said anything about majority or some, would make people think you are talking about all students. Simple to say, I said that people don’t always choose the best, even if it is ranked higher.

– um, no you didn’t. all you proved was that the SAT/ACT stats were similar. I see that you STILL don’t get the point. SAT/ACT stats do NOT show the caliber of a student body – there’s so much that goes beyond just grades and scores. There’s passion, talents, interests, accomplishments, etc…not just scores that show how great a student body is. If scores were the only thing that mattered, people with perfect SATs and ACTs would be automatically accepted to elite colleges, and that is just not true.

If you haven’t found out what the word “tremendous” mean, then you might want to search that up, especially because “tremendous” means “large in degree; enormous”. Well the SAT/ACT proved that the “tremendous” is wrong. Again work on finding key words in a sentence, because I quoted “tremendous in caliber” many times hoping you would understand that tremendous is a error in the sentence, which it is since ACT/SAT proves the tremendous caliber just isn’t tremendous.

– maybe it isn’t your “friend,” but you still implied the same thing that because people get rejected from Duke and get into MIT/Stanford, that Duke is better, which is not true. and I was just using demonstrated interest and yield as a POSSIBLE REASON as to why people might get into MIT/Stanford and not Duke. duh.
I would like to explain what my sentence meant for real. If you followed the argument, my sentence meant that Duke denies kids who are just capable of going to Harvard, JHU, Yale, Upenn. I never used it as a intention to say so Duke is better. Also my argument has never been Duke is better. My argument has always and is always going to be about Duke and Stanford is at equal level, there is simply no way to say that Stanford is superior or inferior to Duke. Not one is inferior to other. That has always been my argument. Actually I lied, that hasn’t always been my argument, my argument is that you (frenchhorngirl) should not go around telling people who obvious interested in one school to go apply to another school that the OP wasn’t as interested. I know that slik nik and I have never done that, we both agree that college is a fit, not always go to one that is more prestigious (if one think a prestigious school is his/her fit, then go I have nothing against that)
If you don’t think that you saying I had a friend that got rejected at Duke and got into MIT is putting words in my mouth, then I don’t know what is. Especially when you still believe I was talking about a person I knew somebody who got into MIT and not Duke, which I don’t.

I find it funny how you shut your mouth about Duke and their “demonstrated interest” usage.

To the OP:
Haha, hopefully this debate is coming to a close. Like so many people have reiterated, I’m simply just not that into Stanford. It’s a wonderful school, I admit, but I feel Duke would be such a greater fit.

I’m hopeful too, this will be my last post on this thread, fell free to start another thread and ask your question again. I won’t comment and cause another debate if you make another thread. I am sorry about this. You have the freedom to go where you want, I won’t say anything to get you to go to other schools. And I hope frenchhorngirl will learn to not try to persuade other people who are interested in a college to go to another college.