EOP/HEOP, and other Opportunity Programs

DRMAN54
Sat, 07 Mar 2009 15:41:53 +0000

Excuse my vulgarity, but I would just like to say that the person above me is pulling **** out of their ***.

How do I know? Just like the person above me, I applied HEOP to Cornell. I’ve done plenty of research on this program coupled with the occasional phone call to the state programs office.

But

First a few things:
This link [Introduction to HEOP](http://www.highered.nysed.gov/kiap/COLLEGIATE/HEOP/introduction_to_heop.htm) should be burned and lost forever. It is so ridiculously misleading that I don’t understand how people take the time to read it. They COMBINE the admissions statistics for ALL NEW YORK SCHOOLS!!! ALL NEW YORK SCHOOLS ARE ABSOLUTELY DIFFERENT

So basically that report does talk about schools like Cornell University, Columbia University, NYU and so forth BUT it also includes schools that have much lower admissions standards such as NYIT or City College that have 1400s combined SAT as REGULAR admissions.

YOU CAN’T COMPARE OR COMBINE CUNY: YORK COLLEGE WITH CORNELL UNIVERSITY!!!

Now for facts you actually want to hear:

Let’s take, for example, a student who applied HEOP to Cornell University and was accepted via HEOP:

http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/cornell-university/317003-cornell-rd-decisions-class-2011-a-39.html#post3887929



SexyLikeAScorpio:

DECISION: ACCEPTED COLLEGE OF ARTS AND SCIENCES THROUGH HEOP PROGRAM

Fee Waiver: Used
Sat: M-540/W:640/V:570
SAT 2: (i did bad) Spanish-a miserable 470/U.S History-520/English 510
G.P.A: 3.3
Rank: #1
Ap: A.P US History 2 (we were behind)
CourseLoad- Most Arduous



As you can see. She has no 700, but a high rank, a hard courseload, a good essay topic, and low SAT and SAT II’s scores by Cornell Standards. She was rejected, but the state programs office kicked in and said “she has potential, let’s take her into the summer course and see what she can do.”

WHICH IS WHAT THEY DO!

If you are rejected by the school, they send your application to H/EOP office and they give it a look. If they accept you based on economic standards and college potential, you must take the summer course and pass all the classes. Once that is completed, you become an ordinary student, with more resources (tutors, counselors… etc).

Remember though, schools can only take a very small amount for H/EOP. Cornell University takes anywhere from 50 to 60 students per year. I only know mostly about Cornell because it is my school of interest.

However, DO NOT try and sugar coat it like the person above me. You do get a ridiculous advantage in the admissions process through H/EOP no matter how you look at it. the thing is, you shouldn’t “want” to be a part of H/EOP. It is something unfortunate that some of us have to do because we are disadvantaged. I would love to be rich and have a million resources to my disposal, but unfortunately that isn’t the case, thank goodness for H/EOP!

If anyone has anymore questions, please do not hesitate to ask, or if you feel I’m wrong about something please point it out. We as a community should get together and unravel the mystery that is H/EOP.