How can I get into a top tier/ivy school

beyphy
Sat, 03 Sep 2011 15:23:59 +0000

There is no reason to believe that they would not run his name through the National Student Clearinghouse just because he is now attending UCLA. They may select a certain number of students at random every year to confirm that the students accepted did not get admitted through academic dishonesty. If he is found out in the next two years he will be expelled the same day and notation will be made on his transcript that the reason for expulsion was academic dishonesty.

This is pretty unlikely. UCLA has like 26k undergrads right now and nearly 400k alumni. It seems unlikely that even if they did random testing, which i’d imagine that they don’t since it would be seen as unnecessary spending to do so, that one would get caught. Chances are, if you can get past the UC app, you’ll probably be fine from there after.



But he does not only have to worry about the next 2 years, he needs to worry about the next forty to fifty years as well because if UCLA at any time discovers his deception they will revoke his degree. That means for the rest of his working life when he states that he is a graduate of UCLA and a potential employer contacts UCLA to confirm it they will be told that his degree was revoked for academic dishonesty, ruining any chance of employment.



If they don’t do it for current students, which they probably don’t, i highly doubt they do it for alumni. (for the same reasons mentioned for current students)



It is only a matter of time before UC, CSU and CCC establish a common data base that will automatically flag current and past students of CCCs who attended multiple schools and check their applications submitted by computer to either a UC or CSU to make sure they listed all the CCCs they attended on their UC and CSU applications.



Even if they do this, it probably won’t be for years, and i doubt that they’d retroactively be trying to find students who long graduated and cheated on their applications.

I’m not saying he should lie on his application, i don’t think he should; but i also think all the hypotheticals you’re providing go contrary to occam’s razor.