Is it worth applying to UMich EA for OOS students?

sushiritto
Thu, 13 Jul 2023 21:39:14 +0000

Michelle_Li3:

However OOS yield is NOT.

I’m not saying Michigan’s OOS yield is high or low, but what I am saying that is that it is comparable to UCLA’s OOS yield.

For the Fall of 2022, UCLA admitted 3,084 OOS students and 1,028 enrolled, which is a OOS yield of 33%, which is EXACTLY what Michigan OOS yield is. And Michigan admits and enrolls many more OOS students each year. So, the OOS yield at Michigan and UCLA is COMPARABLE.

Michelle_Li3:

Most CA students have ton of AP’s and they’re able to finish their college in 3 years, at any school, including UCs.

For my D, Michigan was more liberal with their AP credit policy, when we checked things out in 2017-2018. And we know several people who attended UCLA from my D’s HS, similar departments, and it took them 4 years to get through UCLA.

And that was with attending some summer school too. They had problems getting the classes they needed and I remember a recent thread here that backed up their experience.

Michelle_Li3:

Additionally UCLA takes ~75% in-state, and despite that it’s more competitive because of the highly competitive student pool in California. CA students are in-demand throughout the US and they have lots of choices. Michigan takes 50% in-state, their in-state acceptance rate is 40% (which is quite high!), and those in-state students don’t have too many choices, and hence their in-state yield is high.

Not sure what your point is here, but yes, CA has a much bigger student population than Michigan does. That’s obvious. Just as a note, the in-state acceptance rate at Michigan was 40% for the Fall 2021. Overall applications have increased from approximately 80,000 to 88,000 since. So, in-state apps have increased since 2021.

Michelle_Li3:

Michigan knows this, and therefore they defer and waitlist most OOS applicants from CA, and admit them later after they submit LOCI.

Michigan received 55,000-60,000 +/- EA apps for roughly 50% of the 14,000-15,000 admittance spots or about 7,500-8,000 EA admittances. So, yes, most EA apps are deferred. That’s part and parcel of limiting EA acceptances.

Whether OOS or in-state are deferred more or less as a % of apps is NOT known. Those stats aren’t available, unless someone can dig those up.