Is USC on the rise academically?

docfreedaddy
Wed, 25 Jul 2012 21:40:56 +0000

menloparkmom,

You make many excellent points and are keeping the discussion on topic in spite of “outside distractions”. Actually, Stanford has had to implement an on-campus bus system to shuttle students across its sprawling campus to get them to class on time and counter occasional inclement weather.

With regard to comparative ACT/SAT scores, the data above indicates as of two incoming classes ago, USC far surpassed UCLA’s SAT/ACT scores and pulled ahead of Berkeley at both the 25th and 75%tile. These quartiles seem particularly meaningful since they indicate (to the extent you judge sufficient validity to these tests) a quite able student body from the lower through upper quartiles.

I am most impressed that USC commits funds to supporting all students–those in need financially and those who have distinguished themselves regardless of need. Investing in students seems the greatest investment a university can make. To portray this as “buying” students, provides much insight into the motivations of one making such a comment.

What is important to note when considering test scores is that USC focuses as much or more than most universities on personal qualities in its applicants to accrue a vibrant student body. The quality of the everyday USC academic and overall experience is palpable and I suspect contributes greatly to USC being a top 10 dream school for both students and parents. It is important to note that an engaging, vibrant atmosphere is not for everyone. USC students have been drawn away from other top schools, while those who elect other universities may well desire a less engaging atmosphere.

All this is to say, it is pointless to argue on cc which college or university is #1, #15 or #25, especially at the undergraduate level. Obsessive attempts to do so likely reflect insecurity on the part of those making the argument. The key is to identify the characteristics of colleges and universities which are most enabling for a particular student. This includes student academic and social interaction characteristics. To the extent students and parents on cc can help make this differentiation for incoming students, a valuable service will be provided.