MED SCHOOL Pakistan or India for Foreign students? QUICK PLZ

so which would be a better bet, going to a medical school in Pakistan (perferribly Peshawar) or to a med school in India. Hopefully I'm going to be graduating in Jan 2007, and hope to get into a med college by then so I can start my studies right out of High school, as of right now Im in New York. The main reason why I want this is because you can become a doctor in India in 4.5 years and 5 yrs in Pakistan, as supposed to the US where it can take from 7 to 12 years. Thnx. </p>

<p>As for colleges I found there are 2.</p>

<p>Khyber Medical College Peshawar: <a href=""&gt;;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>and Kabir Medical College Peshawar: <a href=""&gt;;/a>, <a href=""&gt;;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Are you a US citizen? Do you plan on coming back to the US to practice (even if you aren't a US citizen), or more importantly for residency?</p>

<p>If you are a US citizen, who plans on returning to the states for residency and/or practice, be advised that going abroad for you medical education will severely limit your opportunities upon return to the US. It's not a matter that you can't succeed in coming back, just that the odds are stacked against you.</p>

<p>Passage rate of USMLE Step I on the first try by US 2nd year students is ~93%, while around 60% for International Medical Graduates (IMG's). Considering that these board scores are one of the key criteria by which residency programs judge applicants, it logically follows that if you are at decreased liklihood of passing Step I, it's also much less likely that you will achieve an exceptional score. For residencies in Derm, Ophthamalogy, Radiology, Orthopedics, and Neuro, board scores must be significantly above average to have a shot at these residencies. </p>

<p>Further, IMG's do not fare very well during the Match process which puts med school grads into residency programs via Rank Order lists. Fewer than 1/2 of IMG's actually find residency positions during the first round of the match, whereas >90% of US seniors are put into a residency program through the Match. US seniors are also at a much greater advantage during "the Scramble" - the period after students are informed they were not matched, but before revealing, b/c they have the benefit of the deans and program directors at their medical school helping them in finding a position. </p>

<p>Further, even if you do well on Steps I and II CK, and pass II CS (Clinical skills exam in which you are tested on how you interact with patients - difficult for some IMG's), there are many residency programs, spread throughout many specialties (even the very prestigious ones), that simply will not consider IMG's who are originally from the US. </p>

<p>These are very important considerations. Again, I'm not saying that you can't come back just that the cards are not in your favor.</p>

<p>Now if you plan on going to these countries, staying there for your training and practincing there, then a foreign medical education is certainly something to consider. It's just important to be aware of the barriers simply put up by the medical establishment that can impede your career if don't plan on living in India or Pakistan.</p>

<p>And finally, b/c I know you're going to say it...yes there are many doctors from India, Pakistan or Europe in this country now who are in very prestigious specialties and earning amazing salaries and so on. However, they most assuredly were able to come to this country under different circumstances, before the USMLE's, before the Clinical Skills exam, before alterations in the visa and work permit process. These are the things that you have to deal with, and should not be taken lightly as they can and will affect your future.</p>

<p>My questions to you include, why do you want to go abroad for your education? Is there a reason why you must be done so quickly? Are you prepared for scenarios in which you cannot return to the US for training? The first questions I asked at the top are also important ones too.</p>

<p>Its a quicker way to become a doctor. say 5yrs. v.s 8~11yrs.
I want to be done quickly, so I can be a doctor before my counsins are, lol....
I am not prepared for scenarios where I cannot return to the US for training.
and im a Greencard holder. Does that make a big difference?. have to wait a few more yrs to become a cit.</p>

<p>I don't know all the immigration laws and exactly what that may mean for you in trying to head abroad vs staying in the US.</p>

<p>Again, everything I posted above is what you need to be concerned about. Simply going to get done faster is not a worthwhile reason in my opinion, but it's just that: an opinion. If you aren't prepared for the potential consequences, then I think you need to step back from the situation and rationally and objectively look at the situation:</p>

<p>Yes in the US it takes 8 years (4 years of undergrad, 4 years of med school) of schooling and an additional 3-7 years for training before you can practice on your own. Realize however that the 3-7 years of residency training is a requirement regardless of whether you go abroad or not. So you're looking at really only saving 3 years if you do want to practice in the United States (11-15 years in the US vs 8-12 years going abroad).</p>

<p>Is it really worth it? Are you (assuming everything works out in the best possible scenario) really going to look back when you retire at age 65 and say, "you know I really wish I had been in practice for 39 years instead of 36 years..."?
Yes it is harder to get into medical school in the US b/c of the requirement of an undergraduate education, but once you are in medical school, I hope I've been able to show you that the path to becoming the type of doctor you want to be becomes markedly easier - much greater success rates on boards and in the Match with no limitations arbitrarily placed on you...</p>

<p>Thus your options are to choose the flat easy path now, followed by a monumental climb at the end (going abroad and trying to return to the US for residency) or taking a more arduous journey to the top of the mountain but once you reach the top it's a comparitively easy ride down the backside (going to US undergrad, getting accepted to a US med school, "coasting" into your desired field and residency program).</p>

<p>Obviously this is not an easy decision, but if your ultimate goal is to practice medicine in the US, then my opinion is that you stay in this country for your education.</p>