OOS Students and the Public State Universities

bclintonk
Mon, 02 Mar 2009 18:17:38 +0000

I wouldn’t necessarily trust numbers provided by the alumni association to be complete; indeed, by their own admission they aren’t complete because they don’t include internationals. The numbers may be in the ballpark, though they’re hard to square with other published figures. I will admit to being hugely surprised that the University of Michigan gets only about 10,000 instate applications and far more OOS applications (over 16,000 domestic OOS applications alone). So I’ll give hawkette credit: her estimates on the sources of applications were pretty close to the mark. But the OOS yield figure is much closer to alexandre’s 30%+ figure than to hawkette’s 22% estimate. And the OOS yield is almost certainly even higher if you add in internationals.

The office of admissions reports for the 2008 freshman class a total of 29,105 applications, 11,953 admissions, and 5,710 enrolled, for a 41% admit rate and a 47.7% yield.

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The figures from the alumni office spreadsheet show a total of 26,499 “domestic” applications, 11,824 admissions, and 5,633 enrolled. That leaves 2,606 applications, 129 admits, and 77 enrolled unaccounted for. As Barrons rightly points out, the numbers from the alumni association are “domestic” applications only. If the unaccounted for are all internationals, then we’d get a total of 2606 international apps, an international acceptance rate of only 0.5%, and an international yield of 59.7%. That’s a plausible number of international applications (UC Berkeley reported 3208 international apps to its 2008 entering class, and you’d expect Berkeley’s number to be a little higher). However it would be an improbably low international admit rate (UC Berkeley admitted 22% of its international applicants for the 2008 entering class). On the other hand it would be a plausible international yield (Berkeley’s corresponding yield figure was 56%). Suppose, for the sake of argument, we take those figures at face value. Then we’d get total OOS (domestic + international) applications at 19,262; total OOS admits at 6,293; and total OOS enrolled at 1810. Thus the total OOS admit rate would be 33%, and the total OOS yield would be 29%. But whether the total OOS admit rate is 28% or 29% is quibbling. Either way, it’s very much in the ballpark with schools like Emory, WUSTL, Carnegie Mellon, and Vandy.