Pat Endorses Who?

TheDad
Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:26:02 +0000

Not me, as I’ve said over and over again. In fact, I will challenge you to find any post of mine where I’ve been anti-sex (other than for children) anti birth control (other than for children) or anti-gay rights. You won’t find one.

SJM, if you read my posts carefully, you’ll see that I’m very careful to address organizations and individuals en masse and you are free to evaluate whether the total picture matches yourself or not. The linkage of anti-Choice, anti-birth control, anti-fact-based sex education, and anti-gay marriage are pervasively linked. But I would not expect any group to maintain 100 percent cohesion among all individuals. And add “anti-science,” viz., teaching Unintelligent Crock in lieu of evolution to the list.

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LD, my D is 21 and I’ve been against parental consent requirements since the notion first surfaced. The question isn’t one of what should be done in most situations but what is required in all situations. In healthy family situations, certainly parent-daughter dialogue should take place. Unfortunately, the number of unhealthy family situations is far too high and a requirement for parental consent is a non-starter for me. Of course, a safe, neutral, and accessible counseling center would be a nice resource to guarantee, but the would-be ayahtollahs of the American Christian Taliban have done their darnedest to close or restrict such facilities, harrangue people trying to enter them, and harass and threaten people who work in such facilities. The geographic availability is all over the map, with many counties now having no such options.

And pity the girl in some small town like Betchurbritches, Tennessee where the girl tries to explain her problem to a county clerk and her family’s pastor winds up knowing the details before a judge does…local cultural beliefs transcending a law that should be equal for everyone.

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FF, I’ve gone toe to toe responding to your conspiracy theories, writing responses with citations so long that I had to break them into three posts to get around CC’s 10K limit on individual posts.

What do you dispute:

Shiite on Shiite violence in the south of Iraq?

Sunni/Shiite violence and widespread ethnic cleansing by neighborhoods in Baghdad?

The reluctance of the Maliki government to see Sunnis armed by us against AQ in Mespotamia and that said Sunnis were themselves previously insurgents and that the stuff is going to hit the fan when the Sunnis and Shiites resume their intramural conflict?

The Kurd on Arab/Turkmen conflict in the North?

The utter corruption of the Baghdad government with respect to reconstruction and the funneling of money and resources to the militias in the south?

Perhaps you’re familiar with Coueism.

In any event, invading Iraq was predicated on lies, botched in execution, and subject to ever-changing goals. I’ll put the same question to you that needs to be answered: define “victory” in terms of who controls Iraq and under what circumstances?

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Viewing elections in foreign countries through a prism of American policy in Iraq is the kind of arrogant, self-centered, self-serving attitude that got us into this mess in the first place. None can be seen as an endorsement of our policies. A deliberate attempt to conflate correlation with causation.