Penn vs Georgetown Social Experience

Penn95
Wed, 29 Nov 2017 03:57:54 +0000

@Cue7 Penn as a really awesome program, called Penn in Washington. https://piw.sas.upenn.edu
If you want to get a government position you have top access. By the same token Penn is not in New York, but it has no trouble with access to top business jobs compared to Columbia or NYU. But i agree different schools have varied strengths.

Anyway, regarding your point about the prestige vagaries of the non-HYP ivies, it is rather interesting to see how it played out throughout the 20th century. I d say HYP have remained consistently at the top and Cornell at the bottom. The fortunes of the rest have fluctuated a lot.

In the early to mid 20th century Penn was the (distant) fourth ivy choice after HYP for WASP elites. Then in the 50s-70s Columbia started increasing in prominence. Then in the 70s-80s Dartmouth was the hot ivy after HYP and Penn declined a lot. In late 80s to mid 90s Brown became the hot one. Finally since the late 90s until today Penn and Columbia have been gaining in prominence over the others. You could argue that the rise of Columbia and Penn has been partly for the same reasons Stanford and MIT have risen, i.e. the move away from liberal arts to tech/engineering and pre-professionalism. The other reason would be gentrification of inner cities. But yeah who knows that will happen in the next 20 -30 years.