Question about race and admissions

fabrizio
Sat, 15 Mar 2008 09:59:57 +0000

Newjack88,

Are you saying that Asians are the exception? That it is impossible to be too black, too Hispanic, or too white but it is possible to be too Asian?



in such a system, schools would probably limit their Asian population by “discriminating” against certain ECs like Math Club.



And, how would that work? A student who lists math club as an extracurricular is automatically flagged into the “possibly Asian, beware” pile?

For your information, two years ago, both the A and B squads of my state’s ARML team had fifteen members. Ten students per squad were non-Asian. I’d really like to see how your system would work.



using your logic, wouldn’t race be relevant if the school had a <insert ethnicity=“”> club or a multicultitural club?

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This would be true only if you assume that being part of an ethnicity means being intimately familiar with that ethnicity. For example, many American Chinese do not speak Chinese and are not familiar with Chinese culture at all. If the purpose of a Chinese club was to promote Chinese culture, these students would be the ones trying to attain benefits from the club, not the ones trying to benefit others. By comparison, a student with journalism experience from high school is familiar with how journalism works and thus has a higher chance of being a staff member on a university newspaper. A student who’s done math competitions before knows what they’re like and is more likely than a student who’s never done one to volunteer if given an opportunity.

Attacking the personal character of Justice Powell, who was known among his peers as having excellent manners, does not further your argument one iota.

The Seattle school district claimed not to be talking about racial balancing. And, look what happened to them.

Earlier you stated that, “there are more whites in every socioeconomic class…” From this, you claimed that “numerically, they make up most of the country’s poor/working class/lower middle class people.” You then argued that because of this, socioeconomic affirmative action would benefit whites and hurt Asians, who percentage-wise, are the wealthiest ethnic group. But, if there are more whites in every socioeconomic class, then numerically, whites make up most of the country’s wealthy people. Thus, under your reasoning, socioeconomic affirmative action would hurt whites.

In post 67, you stated that “Affirmative Action does not affect Whites.” Later on in post 72, you said, “i think that both system benefit whites.” These statements contradict each other.