Question Regarding International Business and the 2 Econ Majors

<p>I'm one of those pre-business-grad-school types who wants to go to UCLA even though they don't have any undergrad business program. :o</p>

<p>Anyways, my question is a little different than the typical "Will BizEcon prepare me for business grad school?", I'm actually planning to get an MBA in business administration with an emphasis on international business (for those curious, either China or Japan).</p>

<p>So here's my question:</p>

<p>I want the business elements of "Business Economics", and I want the international elements of "Economics/International Area Studies". As a transfer student from a JC, would I be able to transfer into UCLA as a junior and double major in those two majors?</p>

<p>The economics classes would be the same, so it's basically like majoring in one major and taking the non-economics courses of the other major.</p>

<p>Is this advised? The two majors are similar - would doubling in two similar majors be seen as lazy? Alternatively, would pursuing a double major be too hard for a not-particularly-overachieving person like me?</p>

<p>You can't double major in two very similar majors. It is too easy.</p>

<p>I'm pretty sure that double majors in the College of Letters and Science must be inter-departmental. Otherwise, every Business Economics major would double-major in Economics/International Area Studies, and every Music major would double-major in Ethnomusicology, etc. :rolleyes:</p>

<p>So would I be able to major in one of the majors and take the classes of the other major? Aka, take the classes that would qualify me for both majors, but only nominally major in one of them?</p>

<p>Sure you can take classes in the Econ/Int'l Area Studies major. Or you could double in East Asian Studies, though that might be hard. Double-majoring within the econ department isn't allowed. The non-econ electives that make the Int'l Area Studies part of Econ/Int'l Area Studies don't have anything to do with business and are classes in the fields of geography, political science, sociology, anthropology, and the like.</p>

<p>Yeah, you can major in BizEcon and take Int'l Econ electives + a language</p>

<p>Thanks for the help guys. I think I'm going to major in BizEcon and maybe minor in Asian Languages (either Chinese or Japanese, depending on how well my first semester of each goes at my current community college).</p>

<p>I wish UCLA just had "Business/International Area Studies". <em>sigh</em></p>

<p>In terms of practicality, economics has a reputation for being pretty useless. ><</p>

<p>You need a business degree if you want to go into business= MYTH</p>

<p>True, but I wouldn't really know where to start without going to business school. Plus, I'm kind of an "academic type". ><</p>

<p>Either way, having an MBA would help if I want to get hired rather than start my own.</p>


<p>Most people don't consider business "academic." It's more likely engineering and pre-med.</p>

<p>...True, but you're going to have to start on your own unless you're some super genius. Most if not all MBA schools require at least 2-3 years of work experience before admission.</p>

<p>Get a bizecon degree, good grades and a nice internship and you'll be all set. Anyone telling you else does not know what they're talking about.</p>

<p>Two of my friends are starting with Goldman, one in New York, one in Hong Kong. Couple others landed consulting gigs and other prestigious jobs. Recruiters told them and me they preferred us UCLA econ students over BA students from a certain school close to downtown LA ;)</p>

<p>Oh, wait. I forgot the imminent recession (or depression maybe?) so I guess you may have to work a bit harder</p>

<p>^ Would a GPA of >3.5 be considered "good grades"? What's considered a good GPA range to land an internship/job?</p>

^ Would a GPA of >3.5 be considered "good grades"? What's considered a good GPA range to land an internship/job?


<p>Completely safe: 3.7 and above
You're doing awesome: 3.5 and above
Try not to aim below this: 3.4
Minimum that some major firms look at: 3.2
Do not go below this or you are screwed: 3.0</p>

<p>Also, I cannot stress the importance of participating in clubs/extra-curricular activities. Make sure you have officer positions; the more responsibilities and experiences you have, the better. Try to get some good work experience too, like work-study or internships open to 1st/2nd years. Combine all this with a good GPA and you're pretty much set (just be sure to do well in interviews too).</p>

<p>Would this be cumulative, or just your econ major GPA?</p>

<p>I recommend majoring International Area Studies and minor in Accounting.</p>

<p>International Area Studies is such a long major :(</p>

<p>At least if you're attempting two minors :)</p>

<p>you dont need to double major. just do the int'l econ and take a few accounting classes.</p>

<p>i find it funny how everybody strives to do bizecon over the other two. dude, it's basically the same thing, except bizecon has more specific requirements on which econ classes you have to take. that, and add a few accounting classes, and it's the same thing.</p>


Seconded. It's possible to have a "Business Economics" courseload without majoring in it. However, there's the whole prestige factor. :rolleyes:</p>

<p>It's also because of the 106 classes. They are impossible to get into if you're not officially a BizEcon major. A lot of students are interested in taking classes like Finance (106F), Investments (106V), Entrepreneurship (106E), Pricing & Strategy (106P), etc.</p>

<p>Yes you can get in during the summer, but consider that most business students are probably spending their summers on an internship. </p>

<p>So this is why BizEcon is preferable to the other econ majors. If you want the full BizEcon courseload (including finance, investments, etc), you better be a BizEcon major or be prepared to spend your summer in school rather than getting real-world work experience.</p>

<p>P.S. Something I wish I knew: There's another interesting series of finance classes called Mathematical Finance (Econ 141A & B). I never took it, but it seems really useful for students considering careers in banking and investments, or a masters in finance. Pre-reqs include Math up to 33A and Stats 100A or Math 170A. So if you have enough time left, I suggest thinking about taking those 2 math finance classes if you want to work in finance. I would do it, but if I did at this point, I wouldn't graduate in 4 years (because I only took math up to 31B).</p>

<p>I agree, some of the 106's are pretty cool classes and the teachers definitely try to make those classes a bit more special. Although you only have to take two 106's, there's a total 7 available.</p>