So how did we end up with hook up culture?

musicprnt
Tue, 30 Sep 2014 20:24:18 +0000

@dfbdfb, you made me spew coffee on my monitor, thank you. This whole virtuous past stuff is nonsense, pure and simple, the whole claim of the religious right that in ‘golden times’ people behaved like members of the Waltons or something, usually when they were trying to prove that ‘liberal values’ destroyed the country, that sex education caused this,etc…I was fortunate to have a father who never shied from bs when he saw it, he was in the army in WWII, talked to a lot of guys, and he said the only difference from then until now was back then it was something that wasn’t talked about in general society but kids were having sex, etc…obviously, pre WWII not a lot of people went to college, but the point is that things don’t change all that much. I would argue that a lot of it is out in the open, as opposed to pretending it didn’t exist. The Victorian era was the height of this, the claim of purity and such was basical a social facade, the rates of things like illegitimate kids among the working class were well known but covered up, and the sexcapades of the upper class were no less debauched then the prior periods, it was well known who was sleeping with who and so forth…

There are differences, I think social networking and such has made the job of finding partners easier, but I think quite honestly that the people who were likely to ‘hook up’, casual sex and so forth, were always there and doing it, it was just not quite as easy. Veronica and Archie at the ice cream parlor it wasn’t, it is just today they skip the ice cream or the date…I think it remains to be seen if socialization has changed, if kids are less social, don’t want to date, etc, or if it simply is easier for those who want to jump around to do so…my gut feeling based on what I have seen is things haven’t changed that much,there are kids dating and in relationships and those screwing around. I am always suspect when I hear the latest thing about ‘this generation’, I guess I have been around long enough to have heard plenty of hype about kids of each generation, the 60’s kids who pioneered sex, drugs and rock and roll were going to be on an extended acid trip (didn’t happen for 99% of people, the hippies of the 60’s became the yuppies of the 80’s, as stolid as their parents in the 50 ever were), the 70’s were lost, self serving idiots, the 80’s were the Gen X that were all going to work at McDonalds, and so forth…lot of hype, lot of “In my day, we went to school, walked both ways, 5 miles, uphill in the snow to get there, and were glad we were given 14 hours of homework a night, after we birthed the cow, castrated the sheep, sang the hends to sleep and did the laundry on a rock in the river…” ('but dad"…“no buts”…“But dad, you grew up in an apartment in NYC!”)