UCLA: Foreign Language Requirements Beyond IGETC

nick_scheu
Fri, 04 Jun 2010 00:52:47 +0000

To reiterate, level 3 is the 3rd quarter of a FL so that’s one full year. A while ago I searched high and low to see whether or not IGETC covered the FL requirement…



Then why do community colleges include it on their IGETC worksheets? Why put it there if a student will need to take more foreign language later? The only reason to have it there, as far as I can tell, is if the articulation officials have determined that the class specified meets the UC foreign language requirement for graduation. I know no one can find any published evidence to support that–it’s what we’re looking for here, and why we’ve contacted the various colleges involved.

UCLA doesn’t have one set of GE requirements for admission, and another for graduation.



the FL exemption that you’re proposing.



I’m not proposing an exemption. What I’m trying to figure out is what community college class does satisfy this graduation requirement.

You say two semesters, but clearly there are differences between the various community colleges. Mt. Sac’s 4-unit first semester FL class and Citrus’s 5-unit first semester FL class satisfy IGETC, but PCC requires two 5-unit courses for IGETC and Chaffey requires two 4-unit classes. It would stand to reason that PCC and Chaffey move slower than Citrus and Mt. Sac, otherwise, how could they satisfy the same requirement?

From another angle, if one semester at Citrus and two semesters at Chaffey fulfill the IGETC requirement, they ought to be at the same level.

If one semester at Citrus or Mt. Sac doesn’t fulfill the graduation requirement, shouldn’t Chaffey or PCC students need to take a third semester to fulfill it, since they’ve apparently only reached the level of a one semester Citrus student?

Here’s my point: Citrus or Mt. Sac’s first semester could be equivalent to a level 3 at UCLA. Note that the section you posted from UCLA specifies a course equivalent to a level 3 UCLA course. It doesn’t specify that a full year of instruction needs to be taken, just that the level of material should be at UCLA’s level 3, which happens to take a year to complete were one to do it at UCLA.