UMICH, UIUC, or UW Madison

goldenboy8784
Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:54:54 +0000

I agree with Alexandre’s recent post; I would pick Michigan over Wisconsin and UIUC even if it costed a $100K but I value being around the strongest group of students when given a chance, I like Ann Arbor and my parents are fairly well off so that amount is not that big of a deal to us.



rjkofnovi:

It’s misleading and frankly obnoxious on your part to put words in people’s mouths that we never expressed. Please quote the line where Alexandre suggested that anyone with a 3.8 would automatically get into Michigan law.



Let me quote what Alexandre said…

"Michigan Law, which is clearly stronger than Wisconsin or UIUC, gives preference to Michigan undergrads and does not require Michigan students with 3.8+ GPAs to submit the LSAT. Those are facts, that should not be ignored. "

How else can these post be interpreted? Alexandre stated that it was a fact that Michigan students with 3.8+s don’t have to submit the LSAT and thus implied that such students would get into UM Law without taking the LSAT.



MichorPlan2:

In fact, you were being dishonest in making such a claim. The only complaint against the program is that by requiring a GPA higher than the average admit, the program was guaranteed to pull up GPA (although with only 5 or 6 students, it could not pull it up much), while guaranteeing not to pull down the average LSAT score because there was no LSAT score.

Uh, how is that not gaming the ranking? U of M Law administered a program with the clear intention of manipulating the numerical variables in one direction or another and without any other institutional motive in mind.



MichorPlan2:

Even that problem was probably more theoretical than actual. As LSAT scores do correlate with GPA, if you have an above average GPA for your school, you are likely (although certainly not guaranteed) to have an above average LSAT score for your school.

Lets use some logical reasoning skills here. You apply to the Wolverine Scholars program in your junior year I believe so a Michigan student who chooses not to take the LSAT would forfeit his/her chances at any other law school in the country besides Michigan’s Law School so he/she clearly wouldn’t have done well on the exam or wasn’t confident in the ability to do so.

Remember, you can get admitted to Michigan Law through the regular admissions process, so the only student who would skip the test and apply to this program is one that knew beforehand that Michigan Law was a major reach and that the Wolverines Scholars program would have been the only way for him/her to get admitted to a school of that caliber (UVA, Duke, Boalt, Penn and Northwestern).