What are Stanford's Peer Schools?

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Mon, 28 May 2007 11:36:28 +0000

you want me to use my “thought process” to argue with you? I’ve researched schools extensively and debated pretty thoroughly. Anyone who reads the posts I’ve made might not agree with me, but might at least think I’m trying to argue using facts rather than opinions. You, instead, just call everything I cite “narrow-minded” and “ignorant”.

Joshua, my point is that - I believe student selectivity is an important factor, and I have a ton of “the right data” to show that Columbia’s or Duke’s students are more selective than Michigan’s.

Your point is that things like “grad employability” and “academic facilities” are more important, even though you haven’t even bothered to find any data regarding those. I have found data - such as global corporate surveys by THES, student:faculty ratios, endowment per student, etc. - and these all point to Columbia and Duke having a better level than Mich and more comparable to Stanford (though not there yet).

Joshua, I understand all of your points, but I think that you just don’t do any research yourself and just deny all the facts other people bring up.

-Student Selectivity IS important - and I have facts to prove that Duke and Columbia are fairly more selective than Mich.

-Academic resources are also important - and I know that Columbia’s and Duke’s endowment per undergrad is greater, professor:student ratio is better, etc.

-Grad employability IS important - and I know that Duke and Columbia both rank highly on global corporate surveys and WSJ professional feeder school rankings.

Joshua, all the right data is available, but I guess its convenient to just ignore everything, and to call opposing view points “ignorant” and “narrow-minded”, while instead I try and actually work with your argument and prove you wrong with facts.

I can’t wait to hear your reply.

BTW, for everyone annoyed by this thread, I’m arguing that Columbia, Duke, etc. should be considered top 10 schools behind HYPSM, and are somewhat better undergrads than Michigan. No one’s arguing that Columbia, Duke, etc. are better than Stanford.