What's good enough to get into an Ivy League?

<p>GPA: 3.9833
Rank: 1 (weighted)
6 (unweighted)
SAT Score: 2210
SAT II: Math IIC 770
Physics 700</p>

<p>9th Grade:
A- A English I Honors
A A Biology Honors
A A Algebra II / Trig Honors
A A Health / Personal Business and Finance
A A Orchestra
A A Spanish II</p>

<p>10th Grade:
A A Orchestra
A A English II Honors
A A Physics AP
A A Pre Calculus
A A Spanish III
A A World History AP</p>

<p>11th Grade:
A A Orchestra
A- A English III AP
A A US History AP
A A Chemistry AP
A A Calcluls AB AP
A A Spanish IV/V AP</p>

<p>Freshman Class Treasurer
Key Club Vice President
Key Club President
Orchestra Vice President
Orchestra President
Tennis Varsity 3 Years
Tennis Team Captain
Orchestra Assistant Concertmaster
Orchestra Concertmaster
Chamber Orchestra Assitant Concertmaster
CHamber Orchestra Concertmaster
Senior Class Secretary
Knowledge Bowl Team
National Honor Society
All State Orchestra 2 years
Solo Ensemble REgional 2nd Place 3 years
Solo Ensemble State Honorable Mention 3 years
Gresham COmpetition for Chamber ORchestra 2nd Place
Commitee Head of numerous events for school and club</p>

<p>So many people tell me different things</p>

<p>i get really confused as to whether I really have a chance
at an ivy league or not</p>

<p>when I was a freshman, i really had high aspirations
but as the time for coll apps gets closer and closer
reality hits me</p>

<p>am i really good enough to get into an ivy league school?
I really don't know</p>

<p>I really want to get into
Yale Princeton</p>

<p>dude, why listen to other people. You got the goods, go sell yourself. You're going to need one more SAT II score though but yeah, that SAT is right at the cusp or borderline of Harvard acceptances. You got really good ECs but it's up to you to convince admin that they are not just that list of things you just posted</p>

<p>Not even close!</p>

<p>"Not even close!"
You say that based on what???/:)</p>

<p>You're good enough to do great anywhere you go. My D had very similar stats to yours and will be graduating as valedictorian of her class. Her "passion" is music, her academic interests are science and math, and was a great "ivy" candidate but will not be attending an ivy. (For reference, rejected at Brown, Williams,and MIT, Waitlisted at Princeton and at Amherst), Our feeling is that someone like you and my D has what 80% of the applicants have, but the ones who gain that admit letter has "something different". For us here on Long Island, that something "different" is a lacrosse stick, or some athletic skill, or some national award, or some ethnic diversity which my D offered none of that. In all fairness, she didn't apply to all the top schools, just the ones she could see herself at. We feel she will be very happy and have a lot of confidence where she is going. Giving her another 4 yrs to grow and explore before she goes into the competitive world. So don't sell yourself short. Look for a "safety" you will thrive at and be satisfied at and if you get into your dream school, that will be great for you to have that choice. Don't be fooled by the ignorant people in this world who think you are less because you don't have a "designer" education. That is what we are facing now when they hear she isn't going ivy. Some of the most brilliant people I know went to their state school.
Congratualtions on your successes.</p>

<p>your fine, you will have many options</p>

<p>Long Answer:
Your list of schools will need to be whittled down a bit, but I'd say you have a chance at all of the ones you listed. Your standout EC is without a doubt music. Depending on what instrument you play, that could serve as a hook. Colleges need people to fill their ensembles, and if you play something slightly obscure, that could pull you through. Otherwise, your music is just a really impressive EC. As far as your other ECs (because your grades and scores are just fine--not jaw-dropping, but certainly good enough to have you considered), they seem a bit mismatched, and it looks like some are just "fillers," because you can't spend a good amount of time on each one every week. That's certainly not enough to make or break and acceptance though. </p>

<p>Before you apply to those reach-y schools, you'll need to narrow your list. For a second, forget all top-tier schools. Pick a school, usually an in-state public, that is financially and academically appropriate and you can see yourself attending. Then pick two or so more schools that are good matches--not guarantees, but where you are a solid applicant based on past admitted students. Now look at your reach list. Consider these criteria before applying:</p>

<p>-LAC or university? It's fine to apply to both, but the Williams die-hard probably couldn't see himself at UPenn.</p>

<p>-Urban, rural, or suburban? Do you want the resources of a city just a block away, a train ride away, or far away from your ski mountain and small town?</p>

<p>-A coast, or somewhere in between? There's a big weather gap between Pomona and Harvard.</p>


<p>Try and narrow your reach list to like 4 (more if you're willing to expend a loooot of energy this coming fall). You want to apply to enough that hopefully one has an spot for you but not so many you detract from the quality of your more-likely-to-be-accepted applications.</p>

<p>Short Answer:
Yes, but that doesn't guarantee you'll be accepted.</p>

<p>The schools you listed are a reach for EVERYBODY. You are a competitive candidate - excellent stats all around. So of course you have a CHANCE. Whether you'll get into these schools -- no one can tell you. </p>

<p>One thing is for sure: you will NOT get in if you do NOT apply. So go for it. Keep your fingers crossed and pray to whatever God(s) you pray to. And make sure you apply to some 'match' and 'safety' schools too. </p>

<p>You'll do great - no matter where you end up going.</p>

<p>You're good enough to get into an Ivy League school or one as competitive. It depends on how you sell yourself, at this point.</p>

<p>Yeah Cervantes put it sweetly and simply :)</p>

<p>While I agree with others that your resume is more than adequate to be a legitimate applicant to all of these colleges, I cannot urge you strongly enough to review how/why you have chosen this group of colleges. Forgive me if I have missed some common thread, but your post unfortunately reads to me like someone in search of prestige rather than a well-conceived plan to apply to colleges that offer an experience that you are seeking. What are you looking for?</p>

<p>if you really want to get into an ivy, just apply to the contract colleges within Cornell. It wouldn't hurt to add 1 or 2 schools in the 20s on to your list as well, just in case.</p>

<p>Just to dispel a common rumor perpetuated here by Keefer, simply applying to a contract college at Cornell does not mean you're going to get in. </p>

<p>While their acceptance rate is obviously higher, a demonstrated interest in the field is required and is therefore significantly more self-selective before people even apply, making the higher acceptance rate a little misleading (much like University of Chicago's).</p>

<p>But, that's not on your list. Just dispelling a rumor.</p>

<p>Not all Ivies are equally good at the undergraduate level.</p>

<p>LOL. I wasn't saying he definitely will get in, but you have to agree that he stands a VERY good chance of getting into CALS at Cornell or ILR. Average scores at CALS is 1320(?) and 95/100 average, statistically speaking he's quite a bit above their median. Not trying to put down Cornell, it's just that certain colleges at Cornell are easier to get in. </p>

<p>Also for the OP, investigate the Financial Aid policies at those schools, maybe try to apply early to one that you are very happy to attend and financially able to attend(many ivies are now upping their financial aid for middle income families), these days it could mean the difference between an acceptance and a rejection.</p>

<p>I agree with keefer. I think Cornell is nearly a definite for Johnnyboioh. He also has good shots at Penn (non-Wharton) as of now. It's hard to predict his chances at the other Ivies.</p>

<p>There is a critical piece of information missing from Johnny Boioh's posting. What is his family and parental educational background? That can make a big difference in the outcome. Clearly if his parents are doctors, and he comes from a well-off Long Island suburb, these extracurriculars may not get him into a top school.</p>

LOL. I wasn't saying he definitely will get in, but you have to agree that he stands a VERY good chance of getting into CALS at Cornell or ILR. Average scores at CALS is 1320(?) and 95/100 average, statistically speaking he's quite a bit above their median. Not trying to put down Cornell, it's just that certain colleges at Cornell are easier to get in.


<p>I know you weren't trying to put it down. I think he has a good shot at getting in all the schools he's interested in. Cornell's not even on his list, so it's irrelevant. But, just to conclude this conversation, perhaps certain aspects of CALS (like communications) or ILR could be broad enough to be back doors into the school. </p>

<p>Most contract programs (like Animal Science, Hotel Management, Natural Resource Management) look more at one's relevant background of experience in conjunction with stats. You can't really fake being a farmer! </p>

<p>Anyway - that's off topic. I apologize.</p>

<p>write a good essay + find some luck</p>

<p>Cornell's School of Hotel Administration is NOT a contract college. It is one of the endowed colleges.</p>