Whats wrong with socialism?

proletariat2
Fri, 19 Feb 2010 21:20:50 +0000

^Actually, the irrationality of people is a major part of the theories of some radical libertarians. People like Hayek were very interested in that king of stuff.



A gang member might be called bad, but he was forced to be a gang member due to poor familial circumstances, over which he had no control while he was growing up as a child.



I totally see where you’re coming from, but I think it’s hard to press the case that a gang member was forced to become a gang member.



Rational people will never favor collective self-interest over their own self-interest. End of story.

It’s the same thing that would be wrong with evolution if every single animal were allowed to reproduce. Bad systems need to fail, bad companies need to fail, bad individuals need to fail.



So, you’re saying that millions of brilliant people were “irrational”? I advise you think about it more before so readily dismissing it. But in any case, socialists contend that socialism would raise quality of life for nearly everyone, just as many radical libertarians contend that libertarianism will ultimately help the poor.'

And your argument about business failure doesn’t apply to socialism. You’re thinking of socialism like France, which really isn’t very socialist. In socialism, the government doesn’t keep alive inefficient businesses, because the businesses are collections of people.



Well, the whole issue with Marxist ideology opposed to Capitalism is the culture instill in the people who are practicing it. In a capitalist nation, the people are encouraged to be selfish. We are working for our own common good for our OWN pursuit of happiness, not for the happiness of our community. For America to become a socialist state, that very culture must be undone, and people must see the community before themselves.



Which I think is a good argument, and I agree with you. I don’t think America should become socialist. I don’t think it’d work for us. (I’m not really a socialist, I’m just saying you guys shouldn’t dismiss it so readily.)



the Bible is a prime example of the sort of culture that should be instilled in people to obtain a somewhat-socialist state



Which is ironic considering how much Marx hated religion. To him, it was an instrument to maintain the status quo. In a lot of European countries, though, there are Christian socialist parties.