Which science majors have the fewest conservatives?

mathboy98
Wed, 16 Jun 2010 14:35:18 +0000

if there is no fact, and the scientific method is just as valid as theists’ assumption, why does it work so well? why have everything that has ever been explained, been explained by science?



Because science attempts to answer only questions which it feasibly can answer. I believe in the principle of doing what a task takes - and if it is observational in nature, chances are a scientific approach is required.

Religious tenets can be formed through scientific observation too. In fact, I believe much of Christian philosophy could be rederived simply by stating the goal, and making an observation-based inquiry.

However, spoken in the language of logic, in order to have a formal system to manipulate, you need to give some preliminary assignment of meaning in some universe, which descends into the realm of philosophy.

Look pkmntrainer - I think if you mean to define absolute morality as necessarily something which a big guy from the clouds handed down, that’s just not the right definition. The real question of defining what an absolute morality would entail is tough.

But I can give one big hint - even if we choose to conceptualize the issues at stake differently (whether using Gods and hells or mythology or just plain scientific observation and our own experiences of happiness and sadness), an absolute morality would arrive at the same code of conduct. IF there is room for debate with how someone must live in a certain circumstance, then the morality should give a choice as to how that someone can live - but given you, pkmntrainer, find some “Happiness” to be the ultimate goal, the only sense in which one could argue there is no such absolute is by claiming “Happiness” cannot be defined meaningfully in any absolute sense.

Which, actually, I do not believe is clear at all. Yes, one person’s pleasure is another’s pain. But “Happiness” should be defined to be “that which is ultimately sought by all”, and nothing more, nothing less. It is multi-colored, it is a huge thing, it is why religions have had to go through such lengths, very likely, to create paradoxical, complicated figures of divinity.

Morality needn’t be the precise way one should act to every scenario, but a strong web of lifestyle and consequence, knowing which one cannot BS oneself as to how to live.